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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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I got asked this question a couple times when mentioning that I always have the police radio playing at home.

There are a lot of (totally legal!) ways to listen in on your local gang in blue's radio communications, but the easiest is to use Broadcastify.com, a service run by RadioReference (awesome boomer RF resource). It's free, works pretty well, and is so easy to get running that your ACAB grandma could figure it out.

Click your state, scroll or Ctrl+F for your locality, then click play. Police channels, fire channels, public safety, etc.

If the department you're looking for isn't listed it may be for a couple reasons. If they're using encryption in addition to just digital trunking, then it's unlikely anyone will be streaming them to Broadcastify. But if they don't use encryption (and you can use RadioReference to look up what system every PD is using!) it may just be that no one is currently streaming that specific PD. Maybe it's a really small town, or maybe the person streaming it before is under arrest lmao.

Which is actually excellent, because now you can learn about RTL-SDR and start capturing their radio yourself! Gone are the days when you need to drop $500 on a police scanner just to handle trunking. You can spend less than $30 on an RTL-SDR dongle and couple that with free software. The actual set-up is beyond the scope of this quick post, but there are a lot of articles out there on how to do it, and it's really fun.

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[–] jeansburger@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will note that some departments are moving towards encrypted real time communications and then time delayed text transcripts. This is under the guise of "officer safety" but really they hate the fact that civilians were actively monitoring them and calling out possible issues in real time on the bird site and other social media.

[–] JudCrandall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep! So at this past Def Con, sally who makes yachts gave a really good presentation that touched on this. Even with voice encryption, the amount of information you can get from just the meta data is incredibly useful.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I lack the technical knowledge to add anything meaningful to this conversation, but sally who makes yachts is a damned cool non de plume.

[–] JudCrandall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That was my first thought when I saw the talk come up!!

[–] Monkstrosity@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sadly most police in high-urban areas are moving to encrypted radio so for anyone living near bigger populations they might not get as much use out of it. Personally I usually only get some backup frequencies and maybe sheriff dispatch or fire department, otherwise most emergency services are switching to the same system (high-band Motorola networks) for ‘disaster preparedness’. I still encourage people to check of course and if you’re anywhere else you definitely should be able to listen in on local comms.

[–] JudCrandall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Once all departments make the switch to LTE we'll basically lose that entire monitoring surface, which is why it's really important to develop novel ways of tracking them now.