this post was submitted on 23 Sep 2023
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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INFO

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Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] nul9o9@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Jesus Christ, I did not expect that poor man's face scrolling down my feed.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

No way in hell that wasn't at minimum aggravated assault if not attempted murder

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Punched him with handcuffs.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least two strikes came from above head. You can see that on the top left of his head. You couldn't strike like that doing a jab.

I don't even know why they booked this man he's obviously concussed and disfigured.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want to use it as evidence to show he fought back and the cops had to use force to make an arrest.

I was a cop. I know the drill. The photo is to show the force needed to make an arrest.

There will be another photo of the cop entered into evidence to show his wounds.

An example is you untuck your shirt, undue a few bottoms and slouch.

I shit you not. You take off your hat to make your hair look messy.

[–] RangerAndTheCat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for the information and coming forward with your experience. I would have never thought of something like that being used AGAINST the one who was physically attacked. Also maybe nice to see another PNW in the wild.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’d use that in court to show how serious the fight was.

Assaulting a police officer has two standard. It’s a higher punishment if you need medical care.

So dudes would call an ambulance to get a band aid put on to qualify for the greater chargers. They received medical care.

I am not anti-cop at all but I am anti-bullshit.

[–] RangerAndTheCat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I’m in the absolute fuck! Man thanks for the intel I really appreciate it. Better to be informed than not at all.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

That’s why I hate plea bargaining so much.

Guy is mentally Ill. Old. Maybe started a fight with a cop but how much of a threat is he?

Yet he’ll get charged and got to jail/prison and is society safer ?

He’ll plea because no way he can afford a lawyer.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a new one, to me. They slip the handcuffs over their fist, like brass knuckles?

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

I’ve heard of people doing it but you risk hurting yourself. Most states it would illegal since it’s brass knuckles. Punching to the head would he assault with deadly weapon unless you were authorized for deadly force.

That’s why he got cut so bad. It’s the it’s all the force in a small area

[–] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

NSFW? (Except if you're a cop of course)