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Plutocrats like Thiel are constantly thinking about the fact that ordinary people vastly outnumber them and can kill them at any time. They think about it way more often than ordinary people do. It’s a point that they are acutely aware of at all times. It consumes their attention. They are always working on manipulating public consciousness to ensure that we don’t think as much as they do about how many more of us there are of them, and how we don’t have to put up with their domination of our society if we don’t want to.

As Michael Parenti once put it:

“I tell students when they say, ‘Oh they don’t care what we think. They ignore us’, and all that, and I say, ‘Oh no, no. That’s the only thing they care about you. The only thing they care about you is what you’re thinking. They don’t care if you eat correctly, they don’t care how your living conditions are, they don’t care that they’ve built up an inhuman and irrational traffic system that’s strangulating us and polluting our air, they don’t care about anything. The only thing about you they care about is what you’re thinking. In the morning, they start, ‘What’s going to be the story today? How do we manipulate, how do we control, how do we contain, how do we influence, how do we act upon what it is that they have in their minds?’”

Manipulating public consciousness is of existential importance to the ruling class, because no matter how many billions of dollars you amass, at the end of the day you’re still a soft skin sack of blood and bones like anybody else, and you share a society with huge numbers of people who can very easily hurt you if they want to. That’s why our minds are constantly being hammered with propaganda into accepting the status quo politics upon which our rulers have built their kingdoms.

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[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't believe this crap for a second - they can afford all the security they need to protect themselves. I think this is an attempt at manipulation to keep us at bay for a while until we cool off & resume living like before this happened, so they can continue doing what they've been doing all the while knowing that they shouldn't push much further for now.

Let's face it - human attention spans are short, and in three months or so this will be pushed back in most people's minds as they continue dealing with their day-to-day struggles. This messaging is designed to make us feel "heard" so we wait to see what happens rather than risk our lives on taking further action, but after a while nothing will have changed & it'll all be the same as before.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I don’t believe this crap for a second

Which crap don’t you believe?

This messaging is designed to make us feel “heard”

Whose messaging? Michael Parenti’s? Caitlin Johnstone’s? Peter Thiel’s? Piers Morgan’s?

after a while nothing will have changed & it’ll all be the same as before.

As I’ve already said elsewhere in this post, one difference will be that the expansion of the security state/police state will be accelerated.

[–] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think you're underestimating the amount of Luigies there are. And I think this probably has woke a lot of them up.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 58 minutes ago

This is the real answer. The rich know it's just like school shootings. One can trigger several in a short period and they're terrified of that.

[–] grid11@lemy.nl 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Does he hang out a lot with zuckerberg, he talks in a very similar way, that stutter like pausing and air gasping, wth?

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Of course he does. Since before Cambridge Analytica.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 hours ago

Wait having a mountain of money does not make you invincible?

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 25 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

He knows they’ve crossed a line into the most indefensible of behavior. He knows that they’re killing us for profit, and he’s begging us to stop defending ourselves.

The mask is off. They’re now openly asking us to die for their wealth.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

They’re now openly asking us to die for their wealth.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 14 hours ago

He's a dragon hiding in his cave guarding his hoard.

When dragons are about, there's only one thing you can do: slay them.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s really telling that their fear is causing them to spend so much on security and separating themselves from the masses rather than, I don’t know, acknowledging the grievances of the masses and spending a paltry percentage of their wealth to solve some widely recognized societal issues that government can’t or won’t address.

Seriously, the cognitive dissonance on display is mind boggling when so much of the population sees you and your kind as greedy leeches, and your response is, “They’re simply wrong!” as you pump obscene amounts of money towards your security, bunkers, and electing politicians who will protect your widely despised position in the world.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Even the actual honest to god mobsters were smarter than this, with their soup kitchens and whatnot.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 43 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Good. These monsters SHOULD be terrified. Note well that fear doesn’t get them to change their evil behaviors, it just makes them spend more on security. Every one of these bastards should never again get a good night’s sleep.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 24 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Spending more on private security out of their own pockets is the least of what they’re going to do. The capitalist class owns the media, funds the non-profits, and largely runs the government[1][2]. They’re going to crank up the security state/police state apparatus, which incidentally is Theil’s speciality.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago

Recent events have certainly displayed how fearful the owners of media are of the masses getting ideas all on their own.

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

There's a simple answer really, if you think eating the rich is the move, go into security.

If your in high school and you have ideations of the new American pastime, consider this first.

If yr fit, and aware there ain't no war but the class war, join the military and make special ops. When yr time is done you're a shoe in for private security to the elite. Not only that, but then ur trained up as well, and will know how to do it and not get caught. Will it be hard? Yep, but guess what, life's hard, it supposed to be hard, otherwise what's the point of it? What the fuck else you doing with your time? You think you're gonna graduate and make a landing in the private sector? Buddy, that's what everyone thinks and look around. People smarter than you can't buy a house. I do not advocate defending a system that doesn't defend you, but I canl suggest using the system as a means to your own ends. The system is working against us all but there's still time to use the system to strike back from within. And if that means striking back with violence, then so be it. The law has shown itself to corrupt and hollow, not worthy of respect. With that goes the agreement that the government gets the monopoly on violence. They were supposed to use that to ensure life is fair for the rest of us, since they've abdicated, well, they put that ball in motion, not you, not me. They sold it out, we're just calling the spade a spade. They'll sacrifice everyone of us and our children before theyll accept even an inconvenience to their lives. We aren't people to them, so don't lose sleep over them.

The diseases of wealth are a cancer on our society

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If yr fit, and aware there ain’t no war but the class war, join the military

Being the enforcer of global capital to own the... capitalists?

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 57 minutes ago

You clearly missed the point. Ends justify the means - join the military, get excellent training and inside knowledge and connections into the private security world, become a guard for a billionaire, turn on them, profit?

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 18 points 17 hours ago

bunkers gotta have exhaust vents. those are super visible with IR.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 24 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They're scared but they're scared nowhere near enough.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 14 hours ago

"One dead CEO."

"Many more to go."

Just quoting my favorite construction equipment, please don't ban.

[–] Numenor@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago
[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Almost like Thiel knows he's made a list.

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Of people his robots dogs are going to murder?

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Yep. They really will be coming for our guns.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

no they won't. it's too integral to the system of white supremacy holding the system up in the first place

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Come and get them. I dare you.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

As it should have been since the beginning