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Campaigners for the protection of the rights of creatives have criticised a UK government proposal to let artificial intelligence companies train their algorithms on their works under a new copyright exemption.

Book publishers said the proposal put out for consultation on Tuesday was “entirely untested and unevidenced” while Beeban Kidron, a crossbench peer campaigning to protect artists’ and creatives’ rights, said she was “very disappointed”.

Under the proposals, tech companies will be allowed to freely use copyrighted material to train artificial intelligence models unless creative professionals and companies opt out of the process.

The changes are seeking to resolve a standoff between AI firms and creatives. Sir Paul McCartney has warned the technology “could just take over” without new laws while the government has warned “legal uncertainty is undermining investment in and adoption of AI technology.”

On Tuesday, News media organisations said that such a system would allow generative AI firms to “shirk their responsibilities”. Kidron said: “The government is consulting on giving away the creativity and livelihoods of the UK creative sector which is worth £126bn a year”.

Tech UK, which represents tech companies, welcomed the consultation, which proposes an exception to UK laws preventing the use of someone’s work without permission – that will allow companies such as Google and the ChatGPT developer OpenAI to train their models on copyrighted content.

However, it will also allow writers, artists and composers to “reserve their rights”, which involves declaring that they do not want their work to be used in an AI training process . The government said there needed to be greater transparency from AI developers about the material they use to train models, how they acquire it, and about the content subsequently generated and it said it could legislate around this.

Chris Bryant MP, the data protection minister, said the proposal was a “win win” for two sides that have been at loggerheads over a new copyright regime.

“This is about giving greater control in a difficult and complex set of circumstances to creators and rights holders, and we intend it to lead to more licensing of content, which is potentially a new revenue stream for creators,” he said.

Campaigners for creatives fear a mechanism to reserve, license and be paid for the use of their work in AI training, would probably only benefit the largest rights holders leaving small and medium-scale creators exposed.

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[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Orrrr we introduce laws that stop Big Tech from nicking whatever they want unless explicitly licenced for that purpose - opt in.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 7 points 5 days ago

A Domestic terrorist spotted and has been reported to appropriate authority. Resistance is futile.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I amazed how regime whores use the law making process to essentially pick winners and losers in such situations.

When corpos need strong IP protections they got it.

When corpos need less IP protections for this specific use cases, they also get it?

[–] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 5 days ago

If they like the books, they should buy it.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Man, is the UK actually any better since the torries left? What I'm seeing seems to say otherwise

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Man, is the UK actually any better since the torries left?

There's been plenty of differences between Labour and the Tories so far, but anybody who thought everything was going to change or that on the 4th of July we were suddenly going to turn into a utopia were setting themselves up for disappointment.

The Tories certainly weren't going to make minimum wage more fair, improve workers rights, increase public sector pay, weren't going to go against NIMBYs, weren't going to abolish the tax loopholes the wealthy abuse by buying farmland, weren't going to spend more on education, weren't going to create a nationalised energy company, weren't going to pass the assisted dying bill, weren't going to scrap right to buy, etc.

They're pretty different from the Tories, even if people do point to one of the few things they have in common and say "OmG bOtH SiDeS aRe ThE sAMe"

I've had a number of misgivings with them so far, but I'm not sure how you could look at them so far and say they're the same as the Tories.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No I was just under the impression that the labour would, at least on the surface be more progressive, from my admittedly limited knowledge, they sold the royal mail, for some reason, and they are banning puberty blockers, so some reason. These two things that they didn't have to do, that will only make things worse. I won't fault them for the state of the NHS, that is 15 years of Torrie miss management.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They didn't sell Royal Mail, the Tory/Lib-Dem coalition sold Royal Mail in 2013 – although it was the Lib Dems that pushed for it.

Puberty blockers being banned in future pending a study, sure, I agree. That's one of the misgivings I have that I mentioned prior.

Although it should be noted a number of countries did that, after a recent study claimed they may not be as harmless for long-term use as we previously guessed. Personally I think the risk is worth taking considering the seriousness of gender dysphoria, but I'm not a healthcare professional so I'm not the best person to ask. I'm going to guess you aren't either.

Regardless, taking a similar stance as the Conservatives on that one issue (out of the several dozen that have been looked at by Parliament so far) doesn't mean they are the same.

[–] YungOnions@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's been, what, 6 months? Out of a four year run? At least give them some time before deciding they've failed.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago

When discussing new policy only the actions of the current incumbents matter.

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

It’s still getting worse just at a slightly slower rate now

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 5 days ago

The same owner class is still in charge. This polarized, culture political regime permitted them to consolidate power and people are too busy doing it the ciecle jerk to notice.

Hey bro just vote for my guy, trust me, bro! Hope change, maga 🤡

[–] frankPodmore 8 points 5 days ago

This does say writers will be given an opt out, which is good, because it shows in principle that the government sees writers have valid concerns. But this doesn't go far enough, in my view, because I cannot see how this will be enforced, however it functions.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I don't understand how they can operate in the UK currently when copilot will suggest the GPL3 copywrited fast inverse square root function from Quake with minor prompting and no citation.

Edit: wrote GPT3 instead of GPL3 initially - d'oh! ironic mistake tho

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

You can also just go "hey what's that quote from that one thing again" and then when it recites it, start questioning how it obtained the information.

I was asking for the Dune quote about "i must not fear, fear is the little death" etc and Gemini wouldn't say it last week. Started reading it then went "oh sorry as an ai model..."

Took me a while to convince it but this week it quotes it no problem.