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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 76 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (11 children)

General strike in the US seems like less of an impossibility year by year

Just restating some of the greatest hits:

  1. Universal healthcare

  2. Universal education through university level or trade school

  3. At least a month pto annually

  4. Parental leave for births

  5. Guaranteed sick leave

  6. 32hr new full time threshold before overtime

  7. Only public, equal funds for elections, no PACs/dark money/donations, no lobbyist bribes

  8. Any elected official over a certain level cannot engage in trading of individual stocks or own businesses, dump it all in an index fund or hand off management to someone else they cannot contact without a mediator and recording, immediate expulsion & no longer able to hold office when found in violation

  9. No billionaires/oligarchs, anyone with earnings and assets over a billion should be taxed at 100% and assets redistributed

Edit: May 1st 2028 looks like a good target thanks to the UAW https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/general-strike-2028-unions-labor-movement/

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Remember when the railroad threatened to strike and nacy pelosi said they would throw them in jail if they didn't go to work.....fucking unreal.

A few take aways:

They need us so fucking bad

They will do anything to maintain control

No one at that level is fighting for you

Solidarity will be hard to achieve because those threats will be too much for people on the ropes in their day to day life to endure.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Remember when the railroad threatened to strike and nacy pelosi said they would throw them in jail if they didn’t go to work…fucking unreal.

There's a great WTYP on this, detailing how the inability/refusal to strike has resulted in an exodus/early retirement of train engineers sufficient to knee-cap the industry already. Increased incidence of train derailments, higher rates of rail jams and mechanical failures, and generally slower delivery times are all the result of the decline in experienced and knowledgeable industry workers.

None of this matters to the train management, which has reaped an enormous windfall in profits at the steady marginal decline in network efficiency. Monopoly means you either pay the cartel for degraded service or you ship using a more expensive method.

Solidarity will be hard to achieve because those threats will be too much for people on the ropes in their day to day life to endure.

Its important to recognize modern capitalist control as a form of hostage taking. "Pay us the ransom or your critical infrastructure get its", even as we're receiving fingers and earlobes in the mail with every passing year.

Solidarity is about liberating these critical components of infrastructure and operating them for the benefit of the public. The goal isn't to shut down these institutions, but to run them without profiteers leeching the excess revenue. That's why some of the most effective popular economic protests don't involve suspending services, but operating them while refusing to collect fees for service.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Its important to recognize modern capitalist control as a form of hostage taking. "Pay us the ransom or your critical infrastructure get its", even as we're receiving fingers and earlobes in the mail with every passing year.

This is so fuckin true.

Solidarity is about liberating these critical components of infrastructure and operating them for the benefit of the public.

BINGO if we have the power to protest effectively then we can actually make them hurt. Right now I feel like we don't have that power at all. Just citing my example of the railroads, they stepped in quick and made sure the goods kept moving.

The goal isn't to shut down these institutions, but to run them without profiteers leeching the excess revenue.

Absolutely.

That's why some of the most effective popular economic protests don't involve suspending services, but operating them while refusing to collect fees for service.

This is interesting to me I always understood keeping services running for the sake of not harming innocent citizens But I didn't really think it was effective. I could see a public transport rail system doing that and it working, but how do workers in other industries prevent the corporation they work for from taking in the revenue

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

how do workers in other industries prevent the corporation they work for from taking in the revenue

Keep doing what you're doing without operating the cash register, whether that's serving meals or fixing cars or whatever.

For some stuff this won't work (entertainment, for instance, needs a full work stoppage to compel capital concessions). But if you're working to rule at a point of critical infrastructure, the only thing that really needs to stop is the financial side of the business.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nothing about replacing First-past-the-post voting?

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Campaign finance reform under 7 would allow further reforms to follow, without those regulatory capture and bribery are legal and prevent any other electoral reforms benefiting the working class.

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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why not beta test a general strike on Jan 6, 2025?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because then they'll think it's about Harris, when she would've just delayed it.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 days ago

Sad, but likely true. Especially sad given how fast the Harris team just rolled over and shut up.

[–] innermeerkat@jlai.lu 3 points 6 days ago

General strike in the US sounds more like a civil war

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago

With the suicide rate as high as it is, I’m honestly shocked more people don’t try to take these scumbags with them.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 days ago
[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

jail is not fun. no computer.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 6 days ago

By 2028 this may be possible idk.

[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Which country has both abusive crony-capitalist billionaire CEOs and fun jail?

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago

I say we embrace the French culture and take up guillotines.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Or be like me and try to do such a deed then realize your bad aim in video games carry over IRL, then you get shot dead by their security and go to some purgatory with this moment replayed forever, reminding you how much of a failure you were.

The only reason I don't want to try is because if I miss, its gonna be so embarassing, I don't even wanna thinkg about it.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

I bet that's why poisoning was so big before guns. Like who has the time to learn archery.

[–] Elaine@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

This would be me if I took the three squares with free housing and healthcare route.

[–] fantasyocean@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 5 days ago

Lol, like anyone here is going to do anything other than protect their own comforts

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 8 points 6 days ago

on the plus side, i now know that if a climate disaster doesn't do me in, the french revolution 2 electric boogaloo will

[–] tywarth@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Even better, a European CEO, where prisons are nice and cozy.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

Now I just need to figure out which crimes would get me life in Norway without hurting anyone. Maybe that's not a bad backup retirement plan to be honest...

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Intentional heroin overdose

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[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not if i'm your juror.

"Hmm. Golly i'm just not convinced HSR is guilty beyond reasonable doubt"

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

There must be hundreds of youths with 3d printed guns and bad opinions about the absolute worst companies

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

pretty sure this applies to Xers to.

[–] Elaine@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Excuse me, I plan to die at the beginning of the Climate Wars - hopefully in a spectacularly stupid way.

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