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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I say it because every time I try to speak in someone in their language, they immediately switch to English. (even the one I'm pretty damn good at)

Because of the dominance of English, many people learn it and that's enough to talk to people from many countries, but what are we supposed to do? We can't learn all the other languages.

[–] new_guy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Because we have to if they don't speak our language

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I live in the Netherlands, where it's not the Americans assuming everyone speaks English. Sometimes it's quite bizarre too: we have this deaf, Ukrainian colleague who doesn't speak but communicates with Russian Sign Language (and whatever gestures you can think up on the spot), and it's very blatant that he doesn't speak English because he doesn't speak and can't hear, and has never written any notes in English or anything like that, but I've still caught other colleagues mouthing, or sometimes outright saying, things to him in English, as if it'd help. I remember once coming across a mute man who obviously understood Dutch, who then tried to ask someone a question, who then replied in a very "my husband is antiquair" kind of way. Otherwise it's mostly European tourists and immigrants who assume you speak English.

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I personally don’t think it’s a bad thing that the world is moving closer to having a universal language, and resisting a clear and obvious trend that serves an obvious public good is simply being obstinate and anti American just for the sake of being anti American.

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

PLEASE don't COMPLAIN about my THAI at a TOURISM HOTSPOT

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Classic mistake of someone Thai trying to speak English. They forgot to write the words “long time” at the end.

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[–] Nyoka@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if there was a time in which a similar sign was written in Latin.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Because they have no official language so any language can be used in the US

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm an American living in Chicagoland, the 3rd largest metropolitan area in the country. I can drive for over 900 miles in any direction and everyone still speaks English, though some jerks Quebec wouldn't admit it at gunpoint. Even foreign born immigrants who never took a class can usually manage enough pidgin English to get by, even if it's just a hundred words or less.

America also has the largest English speaking pop globally. More than the next 3 countries combined. England is 5th on that list.

America had been the dominant global source of money, technology and education since WW2. Though it's in it's slow decline arc, good luck explaining that to uncritical people who were spoon fed the doctrine of American Exceptionalism since infancy.

Why do many, if not most Americans assume everybody else speaks English? Why the hell wouldn't we?

Europeans and Brits go on vacation abroad and it's usually elsewhere in Europe. Huge swathes of the world had to learn English when the British Empire was large and in charge. The US picked up where the Brits left off. It's been that way for literally centuries.

There's a dozen or two languages they might need to be at least passingly familiar with, on top of English which is needed for business, industry, education, flying/air traffic control, and gawd knows what else. It's the lingua franca of the modern age, and if they have no other language in common, two people with a passing knowledge of English can communicate at a basic level.

Americans go on vacation and travel three time zones over without leaving the continental US. A small town is basically the same in New York and California. You can go anywhere in America or Canada (or most major foreign cities) and find at least a few things you know and are familiar with, from chains like Hilton and McDonald's to independently owned clones like Motels and Diners. Our country, a third of the continent (more or less) is larger than all of continental Europe.

So yeah, that's why. Don't worry, the planet will probably kill us off within a generation or two, assuming the Orange Idiot or some foreign despot like Putin decides to end it all early with nuclear hellfire. So if it's a problem for you, at least it's a problem that will solve itself.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

We know WHY you do it. We just aren't very happy with it.

Also, I find it hilarious how US Americans can seamlessly switch between "we're so very united, everywhere is the same, same food, same culture, same language" and "we're really 50 separate countries that each do their own thing, don't judge all of us for the bullshit legislation some of us choose to have".

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I was not suspecting this amount of cope. But here we are.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hop on a 6 hour flight, or drive for 40 hours from most countries and you’ll likely find yourself in a place that speaks an entirely different language. In America all that gets you is someone who has a different kind of twang in their voice.

Not saying it’s right to make that assumption but it’s definitely understandable why people do.

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