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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Article didn’t say what OS it’s running, but if it’s Windows 11 that’s a hard no for me.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I'll die right up on that same hill with you buddy. Don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes!

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Takes on the steam deck - oh!

Costs 2 - 3x - oooooh

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah most people won't pay that for a handheld.

[–] Oth@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd consider it if it was SteamOS, since I love the Steam Deck, but it's performance is just shy of where I'd like it to be.

No SteamOS is a hard pass from me though. I've just finished ditching Windows on my gaming PC, I don't intend to back step back to Windows, especially on a handheld.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

every time I see these my first thought is if its linux. If its not linux its not a steamdeck competitor.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"BuT yOu CaN jUsT iNsTaLl LiNuX"

Hard agree with you. I don't own a handheld, but have friends with steamdecks and a friend who has an ROG Ally. My buddy installed Linux on his ally, and the experience is objectively worse than the steamdeck.

yeah. I want the company to support it as a linux device to.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'll pay that for a handheld that can do 100fps in CS2 and BO3at 1080p. I'll turn down even that if it's windows. If I'm installing Bazzite, it'll be because I don't want the immutable SteamOS rather than because I was stupid enough to pay a company for a Windows license.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bazzite is also immutable though....

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago
[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can disable SteamOS being immutable.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I couldn't even get it to let me use a password.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For the root user? I haven't tried it so I can't really help with that.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah. I couldn't even get it to make me other users.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The omission of the thumb touchpad the Deck has is a huge blow. A lot of PC games aren't built for gamepads, and being restricted only to things that are (or to using an analog stick as a pointing device) is really limiting.

Also, that price point, holy shit. That's like, high-end desktop PC price range. I guess there's got to be people who are looking for this, but it's like... the crowd who would be choosing between a $1500 gaming laptop or this; that's not really the demographic I'd expect to be in the market for a handheld, but maybe I'm just wrong on that.

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The touchpads, virtual menus, layers / action sets, and overall control customizability really make the Steam Deck shine. PC Games with complicated keyboard-centric control schemes can be adapted to the Steam Deck so easily.

A handheld without that is going to be a hard sell for me no matter how well it performs. As a secondary device to a Gaming PC with a strong internet connection, cloud gaming makes my Deck handle whatever I can throw at it.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In what games do you actually use the touch pads and what configs do you use? I've literally never been happy with them and I've tried so so hard to like them.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I've used them games that are more point and click (like strange horticulture).

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use the default config with the sensitivity turned up to 225% (which makes the touchpad's left-right width equate to a bit more than the full screen width); that works fine for me. I play a lot of deckbuilders, point-and-click style games, isometric RPGs, tactics games, or just generally older / indie titles that don't have good native controller support, and it's been a lifesaver for those.

It doesn't feel as good as a mouse, I won't claim that it does, but it makes those games go from "unplayable" to "playable" and that's the jump I was looking for.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Ahhh yeah that makes a lot of sense. I personally play games with super high dexterity demands for aim and whatnot, and the touchpads always felt like I wanted something better. Using it just to love a cursor reasonably at all is petty much ticking a necessary box.

I pretty much switch which games I play on the go vs at home with my mouse and keyboard.