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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Shadow@lemmy.ca to c/main@lemmy.ca
 

Sorry (🍁) we did this without making a post, but after receiving several complaints we defederated from hexbear.net yesterday.

Here's a few quick examples of poor conduct by hexbear users:

They warned their users to behave themselves, but that didn't work: https://hexbear.net/post/280770?scrollToComments=false

Please read and respect the rules of the community instance in which you are posting/commenting. Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda. Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated. Realize that you are a representative of the hexbear instance when you post on other instances.

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[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I noticed a few of them posting Russian propaganda the other day. Nothing of value was lost.

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They absolutely do. They are freaks of nature.

Essentially communists who support the war crimes committed in Ukriane and the idea of Russian imperialism since it somehow in their twisted little minds equates to a Soviet Union born again.

Wrap your head around that.

[–] astral_avocado@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I still just don't understand why they defend Russia or China, I don't think there's a single state mechanism you can point to that's truly functionally communistic.

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I browsed a bit there. All I saw was trolls planning to troll. They won't be missed.

Federation is working.

[–] Anon819450514@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Until they decide to 'raid' instances and start their circus again.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, they already are raiding and brigading. Take a look at any post remotely mentioning China, Russia or Ukraine on lemmy.ml or any other instance still federated with them. 90% of the comments will be Hexbear users trolling, harassing people or spreading disinformation, shutting out any real discussion.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I hope the admins on those raided instances are more effective than the admins on hexbear were.

[–] mancy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Good work! Thank you. Hexbear users are trolls. They’re not in it for discussion in good faith. I’ve blocked a few offenders here and there but honestly I think the culture there is so toxic that we’re better off not being federated with them.

[–] randint@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

100% agree that they are trolls. They flood any China news posts (that's not on lemmy.world) with a truckload of pro-China comments, taking advantage of the fact that a sizeable portion of Lemmy users won't be able to see and downvote them. Whenever someone replies to them with well-thought-out arguments supporting "the western authoritarians," half of them replies with huge and ugly emojis, while the other half parrots more Chinese propaganda (that actually sound well-written if you disregard the fact that China is an oppressive regime).

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I'm all for differing viewpoints but they were just trolls.

[–] init@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I might have to make a new account here. I made a comment and then edited it to address a Q_Anon adjacent hexbear user that replied to me. It's really strange. They say they are extreme leftists on their sidebar, but their politics are anti-Western, which puts them essentially with NK, China, and Russia, which are an authoritarian brand of communist or fascist that prosecutes and imprisons trans, LGBTQ+, etc,.

At this point I think they are simply trying to get reactions and shit stir for lulz. Getting told I should die because I corrected a Hexbear's use of misinformation is surreal. I never thought an extreme Leftist or five would openly and brazenly support a regime that literally made supporting LGBTQ+ stuff a crime only a year or two ago. It's wild.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have been visiting hexbear recently. I have discovered that there is a great deal of content there that is important to me and that I have been "protected" from. It's clearly a legitimate instance with a dedicated administration team. The Lemmiverse is moving fast and changing dramatically. Would @Shadow@lemmy.ca, @smorks@lemmy.ca, et al consider reviewing this decision now that it is about a year later?

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Always open to reconsidering things. Can you give some examples of the content you're missing?

Tbh when I go look at their local feed it just seems like all shitposts

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

For example, c/food is the best general population food forum I've ever seen for my particular needs. A lot of the non-vegan parts of the site is not just tolerant but considerate to vegans. That's frigging unheard of. I don't know what the big deal with shit posters is, but that is hardly the only or defining feature of the culture.

I feel like if you wade into a community you're not a member of and don't understand looking for shit posts, a lot of things are going to look like shit posts.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks for the input! Discussing it with the other admins.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

In my opinion, good choice. It had to be done. Won't be missed.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

You made the right decision. Hexbear users aren't here to discuss anything in good faith, they're here to brigade and harass. That's all I've seen from them ever since they federated.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I've mixed feelings about this. But I support the admins, generally, and will assume they are acting in good faith.

This is sort of like an email provider getting their domain blacklisted. Yes, it hurts some legitimate users, but they are a source of spam and crap and the nuclear option is legitimate.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I said this in the last thread announcing defederation from them...

Freedom of speech doesn't mean an obligation to listen.

Good for you! I saw some of their posts pop up in my feed and had to block them too. Just too much edgelord stupidity.