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Currently downvotes are enabled on a trial basis, this was done by me to see if they can be enabled to prevent spam from rising to the top of communities, along with the fact that is another form of interaction/feedback.

However I've gotten some pushback for this and so I'd like to see the general consensus of this decision. Please put any comments/concerns in this thread, and please vote here: (Link gone poll is done)

the results of this poll and the comments will determine if we keep or remove downvotes again

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[–] CombedSpaghetti@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Every downvote on pro-downvote comments should count as a vote for re-enabling. Clearly they're okay with downvotes, at least when it suits them haha

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If 10 people downvote 10 pro-downvote comments, your algorithm would count that as 100 votes against downvotes. Didn't think that one through, did ya?

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[–] Radovic@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I don't like downvotes. I post stuff here, if it gets downvoted it can fail and go below the level of visibility that garners it more votes. People will downvote for any reason that comes into their heads. It's almost like random noise but it messes with my post's path to its intended audience.

I don't see what possible motivation I would have to keep posting when that is happening.

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[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I created this account solely for, uhm, research purposes but I'm using it as my only account now. Partly because my other instance had some persisting issues for a few weeks and partly because I realized the missing downvoting really helped me chill and stop looking at/for karma. Not that I'm here to collect points, but my primitive monkey brain found a source of cheap reward and enjoyed it. I'm not really into downvotes, but I'm fine with both if others care for it.

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[–] esthete@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 month ago

I've just counted 100 communities I had to block to get a semi interesting "local" feed, in addition to 7 posters who were really not my taste. How many hentai/anime communities are really needed for example? So yes, downvoting makes sense as long as there is a local feed, that's how lemmy works.

And yes, I have witnessed a clear improvement since downvotes are back.

[–] Keralewd@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't see it being a benefit in communities in that I mod (hentai, paizuri, tentaclehentai, and hentaigif), so I'm not personally keen on it but I can see why larger communities might want it. I'm no longer as hopeful that a more active hentai-oriented community will develop here, so though I voted "No", I'm a little apathetic about the choice now, personally.

From what I recall, some users use downvotes for more than just spam, like disliking things. This creates a problem when people browse the Local feed and downvote stuff they don't like even if they aren't even subbed to that community. This impacts niche communities and their posters/creators who would get more downvotes from people seeking more mainstream content even if it would otherwise fit that community.

If the goal is just to ward off spam, then unless reports aren't enough, I'd keep downvotes off.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Downvotes are good, just as good as upvotes, having it one sided defeats the entire purpose of voting.

Everything just being upvoted is a terrible idea and you can see the negative impacts it already has in other places of the internet.

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