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“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said.

“First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?” Sanders asked.

“Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.”

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[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 24 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I would vote for Bernie in a heartbeat.

He seems to always be on the right side of history, he understands the root causes of our national crises, and he has solutions.

Problem: Two-party system, voter apathy.

Solution: Ranked choice voting, remove electoral college (popular vote interstate compact).

Problem: Bought elections.

Solution: Repeal Citizens United.

Problem: Federal deficit spending.

Solution: Reform government contracts with private corpos so we're not getting gouged. Repurpose military budget. Tax the rich.

Problem: Ignorant and misinformed voting population.

Solution: More school funding, pay teachers more.

Problem: All surplus value is siphoned away from the working class.

Solution: Tax incentives for employee-owned companies. More support for unions.

Problem: Consumer price gouging.

Solution: Break up monopolies, punish anti-competitive behavior.

Problem: Irresponsible banking.

Solution: Un-repeal Glass-Steagall.

Problem: Expensive healthcare.

Solution: Universal healthcare. Don't even try to tell me we can't afford it.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 0 points 17 minutes ago

I don't think I agree with you about deficit spending because actually it's not clear that some degree of a deficit is bad. The country does print its own money, so what you have written down in a spreadsheet might look scary but actually be less so.

In other words, what's true for a business or for an individual is often not true for a country that has its own mint.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 30 minutes ago

Seems that the “big money interests” would be at odds with helping the working class.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 27 minutes ago (2 children)

Rare Bernie L. You absolutely can blame the non voters. They are just as bad as every MAGA voter.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 minutes ago (1 children)

Blaming the poor is a cool and fun take. If you willing want to blame those for which voting is actually a burden then you are the problem.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 minutes ago

The people who didnt vote and therefore chose fascism are the problem

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 minutes ago (1 children)

Yes Draedron, you can. But you've already established your genocidal credentials. The rest of us will continue to mop up the mess you, harris/biden, and the dnc made as usual.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 minutes ago

You are the one who picked the fascist by not voting. You are the one who gave power to someone who will worseb the genocide against Palestinians, Ukrainians and enables the coming genocide against Taiwanese people.

[–] runiq@feddit.org 27 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

You guys need a labor party

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[–] theherk@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I will always blame DWS, Clinton, and to a slightly lesser extent Brazile for the ruin of the party. Until there is proportional representation (i.e. never), there will never be a party that represents a great many of us.

[–] generalpotato@lemmy.world 52 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

This man has always cooked. I wish Dems had the ball to let him have the ticket both times he was snubbed despite cooking what needed to cooked.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 hours ago

Damn ivory tower liberal dems.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago

Sanders is the OG

[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Democrats have definitely become the elitist party. They parade their rich celebrity friends around to inspire your vote. Can it become more ridiculous?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They parade their rich celebrity friends around to inspire your vote. Can it become more ridiculous?

Yes. They thought Dick Cheney would do the trick.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Do you by chance mean Liz Cheney?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 37 minutes ago

No, I mean every centrist's Senpai, DICK Cheney. They were so fucking happy when they got the endorsement of their favorite living war criminal not named Netanyahu.

[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 24 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Don't you mean Trump? The literal billionaire who represents the richest man in the world? Weird

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 14 points 4 hours ago

Yea but with the republicans you already sorta expect it. Harris pivoted from a really sensible campaign that honestly I think would've won, to "look at all these rich people, celebrities and even right-wing warmongers who support me!" - and while I get the point - a dirtbag like Cheney supporting Harris is a sign of how fucked up Trump REALLY is - the message might not have been as clear to everyone.

[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world 31 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Had Trump won in 2020, he’d have taken the fall for the Recession and Hyperinflation and it would have caused a 2008 effect. Populist Wave haulted, strangled in it’s crib by Coronachan.

Had Trump won in 2020, he’d be done now and his VP would still be the democracy respecting Pence.

Trump when elected in 2016 had no major plan and mostly left the employees of the state intact, and in 2020 the change was minimal. Now there’s a full blown scheme to control the government

In 2020 they didn’t know how much they could get away with. They’ve seen the limits now.

Winning in 2020 means no January 6th shattering the overton window and leading SCOTUS to some interesting choices about power.

2020-2024 had one Supreme Court Justice to appoint. Now there’s another 2 if not 3

In 2020 it would have been close. Now Democrats will have to regain ground, New Jersey New Hampshire and Minnesota are now Swing States.

2016 Trump had his populist wave weakened by Gary Johnson and Evan McMulin who blocked the popular vote and kept states like Colorado and New Mexico out of his hands. 2016 Trump sucked with Hispanics. That initial wave would have burnt out with the COVID fuckery. Instead Democrats slotted in, took the 4 worst possible years, and are handing it back having effectively both given them another shot in the arm and crippled themselves. There goes the court. This isn’t John Kerry, it’s Carter.

I’ve heard of 2020 hindsight, but this is ridiculous

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago

2020-2024 had one Supreme Court Justice to appoint. Now there’s another 2 if not 3

And you bet your ass they'll appoint them as young as possible so they've got their pocket justices for another 40 or 50 years.

[–] Intergalactic@lemmy.world 78 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Bernie Sanders is talking that shit.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 41 points 7 hours ago

Almost like he could have saved this whole scenario in 2016. Fuckin DNC kiss the ring Hillary bullshit.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Why isn't he running for president? Or he just never one the primaries?

[–] iwndwyt@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 hour ago

In related news:

In June 2016, a class action lawsuit was filed against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and former DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz for violating the DNC Charter by rigging the Democratic presidential primaries for Hillary Clinton against Bernie Sanders. Even former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid admitted in July 2016, “I knew—everybody knew—that this was not a fair deal.”

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 16 points 3 hours ago

Because the dnc would rather lose running center right to right wing policies than be actually progressive.

[–] Murkbeard@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago

Snubbed by Dnc royalty wanting to play it safe.

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