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Jill Stein Won’t Stop. No Matter Who Asks. (www.nytimes.com)

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While Ms. Stein condemns both “zombie political parties” as tools of Wall Street and war profiteers, her campaign has focused largely on hammering Ms. Harris, blaming the White House she serves for relentless violence in Gaza and Lebanon.

And Democrats, as never before, are focused on Ms. Stein.

The party has prepared a negative ad blitz for the election’s final weeks, its first-such effort ever directed at a third-party candidate. Fearful that Ms. Stein might divert critical votes in places like Michigan, Democrats are also pressing their case on billboards plastered recently across swing states:

“Jill Stein Helped Trump Once. Don’t Let Her Do It Again.”

She dismisses the “spoiler mythology” that has come to define her mainstream identity, noting — accurately enough — that some of her supporters would never back Ms. Harris anyway.

She says that Democrats would do well to look inward, disputing that she bears any responsibility for Mr. Trump’s fortunes, then or now.

“Those conversations never go anywhere,” Ms. Stein, 74, said in a wide-ranging interview.

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[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 12 hours ago

If first past the post was banned, this wouldn't be a problem

but it isn't so fuck her.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 14 hours ago

oh heres a new name for my blocklist

[–] daltotron@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

I dunno about this shit I'm probably just voting PSL.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 10 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Don't you understand? You have to vote against Trump because he's a threat to democracy. This is proven by Dick Cheney and W becoming democrats. Now you may say "didn't I have to vote against W and Cheney because they were a threat to democracy for a decade?" To which I say, why do you hate our freedoms?

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There was a failed coup.

Even the assholes who brought us here are going 'oh shit, this is bad, actually,' and your dumb ass wants to pretend that means it's all fine and good. Like if they walked over a bridge you'd jump off.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There was a SUCCESSFUL bloodless coup in 2000, when a bunch of Supreme Court justices appointed by his dad anointed W! Go back in time and browbeat Al Gore about meekly accepting "defeat" despite winning the vote. You'll have better luck with that than browbeating individual voters who refuse to support a GENOCIDE, you morally bankrupt sociopathic idiot, who thinks Kamala with a Republican House and Senate isn't going to be just as bad if not worse than Trump. When SHE wants to deport 11 million migrants, MSNBC will say NOTHING like when Obama murdered citizens with drone strikes. HW Bush couldn't end welfare because he wasn't trusted on the issue. Bill Clinton did. Your shitty right wing dems will realize GOP policy they could never legislate without the aid of the DNC right. You are defending a sacred cow that died 50 years ago in support of the greatest monsters of our age because you find Orange Man gauche. You are a fool.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The way you phrased that made it sound like political rhetoric and fears about the end of democracy are at least partially self serving to further the interests of one political party, and that the truth of their claims may be exaggerated. Now that we know you hate America, and are a dangerous threat to democracy if not outright treasonous, fascist, communist, and a bot also, who is paying you? Thanks in advance for responding.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Soros

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Of course, boy do i feel silly...

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 0 points 22 hours ago

10/10 satire. Really felt like I was on reddit in 2016 when Dems and Republicans became one indistinguishable mass.

[–] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago

You’re either with us or you’re with the terrorists

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

[–] Volkditty@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No one ever asked her to start, either.

[–] basmati@lemmus.org -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure plenty of people asked her to run as president, given she's the most uncontroversial candidate from any party and is more qualified to be president than pretty much anyone else.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 12 hours ago

Arguments are easy when you just make shit up.

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