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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There was no massive Jewish/Muslim conflict for a 1000 years in the region. The biggest massacre in the region against the Jews was probably the Siege of Jerusalem by the Crusaders in 1099, albiet exact numbers are not available. The crusaders killed everyone in the city with a death toll as low as 3000 to as high as 70000. This includes all Muslims, Jews, and Christians.

When I tried to look at the pogroms done against Jews in the Levant the history is actually remarkably scant. While they did happen, my impression based on just reading the wiki article was that they were caught up in larger conflicts in the region and it wasn't a deliberate targetting in the same way the Tsar's cossacks targetted Jews. And in all those cases the dominant power always came to their rescue and compensated them for the damages done by their persecutors. Also it appears that the worst perps weren't Muslims, but Druze (who are not Muslims).

In short, Trump is not only highly dishonest, but also a worthless shitbag who has been struggling his entire life to enshittify the world we all live in. He is worse than Bezos or Zuckerberg, because at least Amazon is a decent shopping platform, and Zuckerberg's facebook helped many people (myself included) to reconnect with childhood friends that I thought I would never speak to again).

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[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I don’t know who is driving the Gaza protest rhetoric. It’s a question that should be answered. Because the absolute anti-Democrats narrative while simultaneously getting extraordinarily butthurt if anyone points out the Trump/Republican stance (and the fact it’s Congress that votes the Israeli aid) is indicative of foreign-based propaganda that cares NOT AT ALL about Gaza. It’s about getting Trump re-elected. Either that or the people posting here and across social media calling this war a genocide are just plain stupid or really, really feel self-fulfilled by their own anger.

You wanna complain about an actual genocide, look up what’s happening in Sudan as we speak.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -2 points 13 hours ago

I don’t know who is driving the Gaza protest rhetoric.

Name starts with a P and ends with utin

[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 13 hours ago

Half of the noise will be from Russian IP addresses, and the other half will be dumb dumbs parroting it.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The best part is the same people say the other genocide in Ukraine doesn't matter, and its their fault for not surrendering to Russia for peace.

So it really is curious where it's coming from.

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[–] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago

Actual genocode as in "what is happening in Gaza is not genocide? This place really lives up to its reputation.

But if you really want to go there, Biden recently named the perpetrators of the genocide in Sudan (The UAE) as a major defense partner to ship them advanced weapons.

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[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 day ago (7 children)

This breaks rule 2. "No misinformation" Israel is not a 1000 years old it is less than 100 years old

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[–] cashsky@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Please look up Brett Mcgurk before you praise Biden and Kamala's stance on Israel. Literally following Bush era policies in the Middle East.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Completely irrelevant. Nobody prizes it. Everyone just is aware that it's the best realistic outcome that election can have.

Third party is statistically impossible, don't lie to yourself. Trump: see meme. Harris: not as bad as Trump.

Unless you're a reactionary or an accelerationist who wants to see everything burn, the choice is clearly Harris.

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[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

the funniest part about this post is that trump and kamala's statements here are functionally identical, differing only in the phrasing.

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[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is classic liberal brain worm nonsense.

Blue maga cultists world rather blame leftists than get your shitty candidate in line with her genocidal policies.

It's not a difficult situation to resolve: stop supplying Israel with weapons and support.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 13 hours ago

"Blue MAGA" is Russian propaganda. "Cultist" is GOP projection lmao

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In southeastern Michigan I have the luxury of voting for candidates at various levels of government who do oppose supplying Israel with weapons.

In the presidential election, where is the leverage?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 12 hours ago

The leverage is denying the power. If the Dems get punished for genocide they will stop genocide.

This is how AIPAC works. It funds both sides, to it can punish the side that is not in line. By always voting for someone no matter what you show tham that your opinion doesnt count. Your needs also dont count. You as a humam being dont count as long as you give them your vote.

That is why declaring support up until the election harms you politically if you disagree with the actions of the government.

If people had joined the uncommitted movement instead of attacking it since half a year, the Dems would have been pressured into ending genocide and could win by a landslide on a no genocide platform. But theyd rather let Trump win than end genocide. Which goes to show what kind of people they truly are.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (6 children)

What 1000 year conflict? The nakba was less than a century ago. Plus "please stop giving 2000 pound bombs to Israel to commit a genocide with" is a very far cry from "please end the Israeli apartheid state".

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[–] imAadesh@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Stop killing Palestinians is such a far left position man. I can't even. Americans are effing weird.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

"Stop killing Palestinians" is a pretty popular Democrat position.

"I will hand the country over to someone who wants to kill more Palestinians faster" is a Leftist position.

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