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[–] Octospider@lemmy.one 53 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It does make sense that they are bragging about converting their Moms into supporting totalitarian authoritarian regimes. After all, Mom is the only one visiting them in the basement.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

muuum, i'm trying to make a revolution!

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

Mom, you should become a communist!

Whatever makes you happy dear

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How are Muslims treated in the DPRK, China and Cuba? How are LGBTQ+ people treated in China? 🤔

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Look, first you have to understand that even the most accurate, zero collateral damage bombings against ISIS and other such organizations were still morally worse than enslaving an equivalent amount of people from Xinjiang.

This is because the West is bad, what people want with their lives doesn't matter, and the Party is good.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How did you reach this conclusion?

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago

Even asking that question makes you capitalist scum.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

With great respect

The respect: 👎

[–] Name@feddit.nu 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Oh yes honey, the famine in China was the liberals fault and praise the Eternal leader, I'd love to visit Castro since you know him. Can you shower now?"

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Has a giant picture of Stain on the wall next to some candles

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

or China! Where you can't protest the government or the banks and have to follow a strict routine of uniformity.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"They're also racist, but that's fine. At least I'm not conservative!"

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The posters for Marvel films in China.

Chinese people really don't like black people. So Disney, not wanting to disturb racist Chinese Audiences, removed black people from their posters.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Welp, that's disappointing

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[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They don't like wookies either, it would seem.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

Chinese movie posters where they remove black people

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Top: Streamers going to rich neighborhoods to attract local viewers and donations after China implements policy of forcing all Internet content to show their approximate location

Bottom: largest art school examination in the world, where ~14,000 applicants invited to the exam must compete for ~800 spots

Most jobs are normal and like the western world. While there are tons of valid criticisms like the protest one you mentioned, "strict homogeneity" is not one of them and just gives tankies more ammunition. There are way better arguments you can make from these images.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you believe there are better arguments to be made, go ahead.

The streamers are up until, sometimes, past 3 am to make money off the rich. So much for your communist China. People need to lug all of their valuables with them to make fools of themselves to entertain the rich and powerful, comfortable and happy in their warm mansions, while the streamers have to shiver in cold temperatures just to make a few hundred bucks at most. A man is dressed as a literal clown, and the girls have to wear short clothes in winter.

And the bottom, yes, is commercialised, mass-produced art where you're stuck in lines, competing with who can be the better artist (if there even is such a thing)—no food, no drinks, cramped with no escape. If your art is not arty enough for the elites, then you are the 'worse kid,' which is an ideology in China where there is always a better child—Failure is not an option.

I have yet to see both of these images be recreated in the Western World.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If you believe there are better arguments to be made, go ahead.

Well, you just did that. I was pointing out that your use of those images is misleading, and as critics, we should take the moral high ground.

So much for your communist China.

Not sure what you think about me. As an anarchist, I don't have socially positive views of China.

commercialised, mass-produced

No. Albeit with a completely misguided target of technical skill, the admissions test is not a factory. And food and drink are, of course, allowed.

then you are the 'worse kid,' which is an ideology in China where there is always a better child—Failure is not an option.

Honestly, it's just involution: Everyone always looks up to the better children and apply to the best school, whose exam is what we see here. However, failure is, in fact, an executable option. Just as there is always a better place, there is also always a worse place: a worse school to apply to instead of the one with a 2% acceptance rate, a worse place to live with a much better upkeep, a worse job where you can still apply your skills with the same comfort... The aforementioned streamers can always choose to pull up stakes and find other types of less gruelling careers, yet they're not comfortable enough with the low-key: Unfortunately, investments in mental health education are way too low to counter the ingrained Chinese culture of overachievement, and that is a very big problem. Such involution is also a problem in the United States, especially in higher education, but we have much better access to online support.

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And have you seen their healthcare system? If Marx came back from the dead he would die from an heart attack when he found out about the CCP.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How is their healthcare system? I know it's very privatised, but not much about the public sector.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Healthcare in China:

public health insurance generally only covers about half of medical costs, with the proportion lower for serious or chronic illnesses.

China's commercial health insurance is also proliferating. In 2020, the country's commercial health insurance premium income amounted to 817.3 billion yuan, with an average annual growth rate of 20%.

As of 2022, enrollment in China's nationwide healthcare system is almost universal. However, these plans generally provide low levels of benefits.

It sounds somewhere between Germany and the US with Germany already being for-profit friendly for European standards. I.e. forget about "to each according to their needs".

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago

Lower coverage for serious chronic conditions is the EXACT OPPOSITE of how "to each according to their needs" is supposed to work but sure, why not Xi.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

You can practically smell the classless, stateless, moneyless nature of their communist utopia.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 13 points 1 month ago

The parents: "that's nice, go play outside"

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