All Proton Drive apps are now open source : privacy

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I want to make the jump from Google apps but I can't because I use GCal heavily and Proton Calendar doesn't (yet) sync to GCal. I can enter in something in GCal and it'll appear in Proton Calendar, but I can't enter in something in Proton Calendar and it shows up in GCal. Hopefully they add that soon.

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

If you want to move away from Google apps, why keep using Google Calendar? Maybe someone has a suggestion for a way to work with it if you say what your continued use case for it is and what kind of limitations you are working with.

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[–] maseo@rebel.ar 1 points 3 weeks ago

@ZeroCool Can it be installed through obtanium now?

[–] JustMarkov@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Wow, so cool. And Mobile Calendar source code is still unreleased, right?

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[+] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works -9 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

So does it work reliably now?

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[+] Midnight1938@reddthat.com -11 points 2 weeks ago

Yet i cant use more than one free account on the mobile app?

[+] CCMan1701A@startrek.website -11 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

More copilot training data.

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[+] admin@lemmy.nowhere.moe -12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Oh it's open source? where are the serverside repositories then

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If it is running on the server you have no way of verifying the code or the execution environment.

Theoretically you should now be able to self host proton

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

TC says otherwise

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And I call there bluff

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Its not a bluff, its cryptography lol

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Except you don't control the hardware. If the execution environment is untrusted everything goes out the window

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thats literally what TC solves

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not really as you still need trust

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago

Nope. That's why we have cryptography. Read about TC

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

There is concern amongst critics that it will not always be possible to examine the hardware components on which Trusted Computing relies, the Trusted Platform Module, which is the ultimate hardware system where the core 'root' of trust in the platform has to reside.[10] If not implemented correctly, it presents a security risk to overall platform integrity and protected data

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing

Literally all TPM's are proprietary. It's basically a permanent, unauditable backdoor, that has had numerous issues, like this one (software), or this one (hardware).

We should move away from them, and other proprietary backdoors that deny users control over there own system, rather than towards them, and instead design apps that don't need to trust the server, like end to end encryption.

Also: if software is APGL then they are legally required to give you the source code, behind the server software. Of course, they could just lie, but the problem of ensuring that a server runs certain software also has a legal solution.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not all TC is proprietary

https://www.golem.network/

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I read through the docs. I'm not sure how this enables trusted computing.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The whole idea is to be able to build a secure, distributed cloud. The whole network depends on secure enclaves.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

I cannot find anything related to that in their documentation, their about page, or their whitepaper.

They talk a lot about decentralized computing, but any form of secure enclave or code verification isn't mentioned.

Compare that to this project, which is similar, but incomplete. However, quilibrium uses it's own language instead of python or javascript, like golem does. The docs for golem do not explain how I am supposed to verify a remote server is actually running my python/javascript code.

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[+] coolusername@lemmy.ml -38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

proton is CIA

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