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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago (3 children)

get SALT back

Hey dipshit, it was your Tax "Cuts" and "Jobs" Act that took SALT away.

I don't know who's the bigger goddamned morons: this goddamned moron, or the goddamned morons who don't realize he'll say whatever he thinks will get him elected.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Contrary to their claims, it doesn’t just affect the rich. It many of us in high tax states, and was politically motivated.

Here in Massachusetts, paying the average property tax plus state income tax on the average income already hits the cap, then you have various excise and sales taxes. Sure, we choose higher taxes to pay for a higher quality of life, but Trump’s SALT cap means we pay taxes on taxes, which is just wrong. For the people who oppose changing or removing this, are you really saying an income of $46,000 is rich?

It does need to go but I would never trust the person who created it in the first place, nor give him credit for backing out his own spiteful action

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

The SALT reductions weren't designed to target the rich; they were designed to punish blue state voters for not worshipping the moldy orange god.

Blue state economic successes are proof that Conservative ideology doesn't lead to prosperity; ergo they must be demonized.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's all correct, just want to add that the political motivation cannot be understated. Blue states tend to have better employment, higher average wages, and a more educated workforce. As such, they pay more in taxes than their Red State counterparts, both state and federal tax. Plenty of red States under Republican leadership have tried to eliminate most of their state taxes so that they rely even more on federal tax revenues to subsidize their shitty state economies by paying for minimum basic services.

Blue states don't want minimum basic services, they want good services; good schools, good state roads, a modern and competent law enforcement and justice system, a strong system of public higher education and high quality flagship state university, maybe throw in some free in-state tuition, and many other things.

Red States have thrown in the towel on all that stuff, gutted public services and institutions, sold it out to private equity, in the name of lower state taxes.

By limiting the federal deduction for taxes paid to a state, citizens of blue states are once again taxed moreso than citizens of red states. That is the intented consequence of this move by Trump and the Republicans. Just as with their COVID response, their political calculation was that it would harm their political opponents moreso than their own constituents. Since that's the only qualification for Republicans to support a particular policy, Trump enacted it into law. I wouldn't call it treason per se, since tax policy can hardly be considered an act of war or revolt, but it's certainly treasonish in its disdain and contempt for the American people.

"In America there is no us and them, there is only us."

There was so much shit during his presidency, that people have amnesia about all the harm he did.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

It's not like he even knows what he's talking about. He's at the "just says shit" point in the dementia.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I came here to say this and am glad I wasn't the first. I don't know how people don't remember this.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

A goldfish turns around in his bowl "Wow, this is new!"

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

I hope Nassau Colosseum collected their fees & expenses up front, otherwise they’ll join the long list of venues trump hasn’t paid.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

WHAT THE HELL DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE?

Well, quite a lot considering I'm not an almost 80-year-old incomprehensible lunatic

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why does he want New York to go back to the 70s? Wasn't it kinda shit then?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

It was brutal. It was his "personal Vietnam" because he avoided STDs.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How does someone who was in New York in the 70s claim that crime today is worse than ever?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

They spend the 70s in a penthouse apartment and get directly out of the building into a limo.

Traveling to long island sucks ass to begin with. Imagine doing it for a weird nazi rally

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

His handlers wrote that, that was much too coherent!

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

State and Local Tax for those who don't want to click a link.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Sure, but context here is important. He's pledging to get rid of something he put in place to begin with.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

WHAT THE HELL DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE?

[–] Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

"What the hell do you have to lose" is one of those great little artifact statements from 2016. The kind that kinda could plausibly work for him back when he was a "political outsider" but I don't think it really works on anyone these days.

Even among his cult, there's an understanding and an acceptance of the fact that Trump essentially runs the republican party now. Everyone's bowed down, everyone's paid homage. Almost definitionally now, being in the republican party means you are pro-Trump. That may very well be the only metric upon which GOP politicians are judged in the modern day.

"What the hell do you have to loose" is one of those kinds of statements that worked in the context of "the establishment running the party ~~aren't racist enough~~ don't have your best interests at heart so why not give me a shot?" that comes with a kinda tacit admission that "I'm probably not going to be much better". But in 2024 Trump's just not the outsider anymore. He is the republican establishment.

Among the many other delusions he is clearly trapped in, I think he's also trapped in the delusion that he's some kinda evergreen outsider, despite the fact that he served four years as president and another four basically running the GOP opposition. I think that delusion is not helped by the fact that the republican base is so rabidly anti-intellectual that you kinda have to present yourself as "an outsider" in order to get anywhere, but if it's an outsider your looking for Trump just aint it.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He finally put his plan together, which appears to be "make the country so shitty people flee FROM the US". It's a bold strategy Cotton.