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Few days ago I discovered that any time you follow a fediverse account on a different instance than your one, the server you are on mirrors the original content of any toot/post, and I think this is a huge issue, because then every Fediverse server/instance could quickly get overloaded from contents from other servers! Am I right? I've always thought that toots/posts from other instances were just "empty shells" retrieving the content on demand.

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[–] angarabebesi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't it much more efficient to link (rather than to mirror) ? What am I missing here?

[–] Edo_Secco@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is exactly my same doubt.

This is the answer I got from my admin: «toots are stored locally for a simple reason: let’s say a toot goes viral, then hundreds of instances would have to upload the message with photos or video from the unfortunate person’s server, which could collapse. Uploading a copy locally saves a lot of stress on the servers.»

What do you think?

[–] angarabebesi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Makes sense for viral content, but most content isn't viral.

[–] electrodynamica@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

I once made a tool that indexes every image posted on the fediverse. It ran from Jan 2019 to about August 2019. I don't remember the exact numbers but including the original full size, the thumbnail, the meta data including the author idkey, profile, and avatar, was sum total under a few gigs. It was indexing something like 2-8 images a second (it was highly variable).

Of course, the fediverse is bigger now. I wonder what it would be.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy only mirrors text, which takes almost no space at all. What does take a lot of space is media, so mirroring that can fill up your disk really fast. Inthat case, it is necessary to delete old, cached media which can easily be automated.

[–] Edo_Secco@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I was following some Birdsitelive accounts from Mastodon, Admins regularly block every Birdsitelive instances they see being used there.

[–] drb@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

I assume this might be related to the cache growth seen by Mastodon instances, quickly into the hundreds of GBs. See the discussion here or the post and associated replies here.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No you are not right. It's not a problem. Pleroma doesn't even download the media, Mastodon does but it's not that much. Each person follows just a few hundred accounts, they don't produce too much content. The fedivers is pretty large already and it hasn't become a problem.