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  1. "Liberty Hub is telling people not to vote!"

There are zero posts here telling people not to vote.

We have however had a lot of users come into this community and try to lecture people how to vote. We have always kept up posts explaining why you're voting for Biden, but we're not going to allow people to come here and lecture us on what we "have to" do.

Criticizing a sitting president and pointing out that his committment to harmful and fascist policies is likely to lose him an election is not telling people not to vote. If anything, it's raising the alarm in hopes that he will change course or that we will get a better candidate.

Certainly, there are anarchists here and others who may not vote at all, seeing this as a systemic problem. They are welcome here as well.

Again, if you want to post explaining why you want to vote Biden, go ahead -- just do it in a way that follows the rules. We are here because we believe the system itself is broken. That is a common defining feature of leftists, no matter what our ideology.

  1. "Liberty Hub is full of transphobes!"

I -- I'm not sure what to say about this. If you see a transphobe here, please report them. Any form of transphobia is not acceptable. There is a reason we have a specific rule against transphobes, even though it technically falls under rule 1. This is a safe space for all queer people, including trans people.

  1. "Liberty Hub is trolling its users!"

We really aren't. I know it's a common liberal tactic to try to dehumanize online leftists by calling us "trolls," "bots," and so forth. I've likewise seen a lot of communities where people are being accused of "supporting Trump" when it's clear that they do not. It seems to me that we have far less trolling here than what I see in most communities, because we immediately remove these types of toxic comments as soon as they are reported or that we see them.

If the "trolling" accusation is related to the rule that says "transphobes eat my ass," then I'm afraid you'll have to deal with it because I have no intention of removing that from the sidebar.

I do think it's also important that we explain why certain people are banned since this community has a bit of a different vibe than most communities. The main thing is we don't want this to be overrun with the type of toxicity we see in spaces that allow right-wingers to take over. This is expressly a space for leftists and post-leftists to share content, not for liberals, conservatives, or others to shout over us or demand we explain basic theory on demand. That never goes well.

  1. "LinkOpensChest.wav is rude!"

Yes, and I will try to do better. The admins have reached out to me about this. I will increase the amount of permabans while decreasing the written response I give to individual users. This should help prevent threads from being derailed while addressing the valid concerns about my tone. If you feel you've been unfairly banned or caught in the crossfire, please reach out to a moderator.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Another thing to note is that I am Trans and will remove any Transphobic comments as soon as I notice them

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Damn, never seen you been unjustly rude! But supernice transparency! 🔥🔥🔥

[–] MxRemy@lemmy.one 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Wow, people are actually saying these things? I haven't really seen anything here like what they're accusing. Probably people who wandered in from /All I guess?

EDIT: Oop, sorry! Meant to reply to the main post... I could delete and repost but deletes are still a little wonky on Lemmy I think, right?

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There was a post about this community in blahaj meta. I actually didn't see it until this morning, but Ada did reach out to me about being more civil with users, which ... yeah, that's fair. (Edit: It's true that I deleted my comment and that entire post after Ada contacted me, which does mean that it doesn't show up in the modlog. Since I'm the one who posted it, I'm not aware of a method of taking moderator action against myself, so I deleted it. If there was a better way to handle that, I'm not aware of what it is.)

Some of the things that were said in the meta thread are quite perplexing though. For example, the accusations of transphobia in this community. Not really sure where that came from.

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Here's my hypothesis for why those people jump in here and yell "vote for Biden": they hear loud people elsewhere say " Biden's bad AND I'm not voting for him because of that" so when they here you say "Biden's bad" they automatically assume you also won't vote for him.

This makes sense, yeah. The bad thing is it gets exhausting to constantly have to clarify that, especially when it's not said. And the fact is I don't want Biden to know that I'm voting for him