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[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (5 children)

That he's an executive not legislative?

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (15 children)

I keep seeing post and comments like this.

You all realize it’s only immunity from criminal prosecution, right? It’s not instant dictatorship power over the nation. He’d have to order the assassination of Trump and members of SCOTUS to leverage the ruling for those goals.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Kill the SC then replace them with ones to sanction anything he likes?

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[–] geekworking@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

All this talk about Biden could do all of these administrative things that he can't legally, but it misses the point.

Say he pushes some illegal orders. He can not get in trouble for pushing them, but they can be legally challenged and shot down quickly. Especially when you can legally "tip" helpful justices.

He would need to do things that could not be taken back.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

You're missing the point, where the president can now legally commit an illegal act, and call it an official act, before the lawyers can deliberate, he's rounded up dissenters in the government and had them shot. No amount of lawfare raises the dead.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 7 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Unpopular opinion: You should be allowed to run for president and be a president even with a criminal record. I don't support trump and think the convictions are well earned. But democracy is a democracy - it's up to the people to decide whether or not they should have a convicted criminal in office.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Agree. The fact that we have to try to think of ways to block this guy from being on the ballot is the truly sad part. It's mind blowing that the simple gigantic list of inadequacies and reasons not to vote for him isn't enough. I can't comprehend what has happened to peoples brains. A pod person epidemic seems like an increasingly viable explanation.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Those who are suggesting Biden do this or that, are forgetting the most important thing about coup d'état: his “followers” would need to actually act on his orders.

And even if they were to do that, which I doubt they would, I don’t think SCOTUS made the rank and file immune to prosecution. While they may have made it harder for Jan 6 obstructionists to be pursued, I’m pretty sure that’s limited to those Jan 6’ers. So anyone following Biden’s orders would likely see jail (or worse). Sure Biden could pardon them, but that would only happen if a) Biden was still president after a failed coup, and 2) the people being pardoned would need to be prosecuted first, which is lengthy, disruptive, and expensive.

This only helps republicans, because as horrible as they are, the one thing they excel at more than their capacity for hate is their ability to unify and work together. Democrats… yeah, ain’t happening.

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