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[–] pro3757@programming.dev 118 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's in Intercal, a joke language from '70s. Mark Rendle describes it here in his talk at NDC. This whole talk is ridiculous btw.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 167 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is the same language where you have to say PLEASE sometimes or it won't compile. But if you say PLEASE too much, the compiler will think you're pandering and also refuse to compile. The range between too polite and not polite enough is not specified and varies by implementation.

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

I love how arbitrary, cultural and opinionated that must be to work with. You'd learn something about the implimenter of the compiler by using it for a while.

[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 13 points 4 months ago

This is hilarious!

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 4 months ago

Wh... what do you mean, "originally as a joke"?

[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 43 points 4 months ago

That sounds like a fucking nightmare. I had to troubleshoot poorly-written-yet-somehow-functional GOTOs a lot when I was a BAS technician and that's annoying enough.

[–] s12@sopuli.xyz 37 points 4 months ago

PLEASE COMEFROM 🏷

[–] mossy_@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Guy who worked at my place before me kept using these and GOTO statements all over the place.

His name? Cotton-eyed Joe

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Thanks for the catchy tune, now the song sticks in my mind again. Last time was long time ago. :)

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

where did you COMEFROM where did you GO.....TO

[–] match@pawb.social 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

where did you COMEFROM, cottonEyedJoe2

[–] match@pawb.social 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Reference to Cottoneyed Joe considered harmful

[–] mossy_@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I almost spat out my drink when I saw this

[–] neo@lemy.lol 30 points 4 months ago

COMEFROM is my go to function;

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I honestly thought C++ (aka dumping ground of programming concepts) would implement this for "completeness".

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They should add it in C++26

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago
[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] polonius-rex@kbin.run 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

shut your mouth

[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 21 points 4 months ago

Aaahhh, this is horrifying! You've ruined my breakfast 🙀

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 4 months ago (6 children)

TBH I fail to see the significant difference between this and a function declaration.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't it steal control flow? More like a break point, except you define where execution continues.

I wonder if it's a compile error to have multiple conflicting COMEFROM statements, or if it's random, kind of like Go's select statement.

How awesome would it be to be able to steal the execution stack from arbitrary code; how much more awesome if it was indeterminate which of multiple conflicting COMEFROM frames received control! And if it included a state closure from the stolen frame?

Now I want this.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

I wonder if it's a compile error to have multiple conflicting COMEFROM statements

I think there's at least one INTERCAL implementation where that's how you start multi-threading

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 12 points 4 months ago
print(A)
print(B)
hello: print(C)
print(D)
print(E)
comefrom hello
print(F)

This will print A, B, C and then F. D and E will be skipped because of the comefrom.

[–] palordrolap@kbin.run 6 points 4 months ago

I'd say it's more like setting up a handler for a callback, signal, interrupt or something along those lines.

Function declarations by themselves don't usually do that. Something else has to tell the system to run that function whenever the correct state occurs.

That doesn't account for unconditional come-froms.¸but I expect there'd have to be a label at the end of some code somewhere that would give a hint about shenanigans yet to occur. Frankly that'd be worse than a goto, but then, we knew that already.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

A function will be called by code and go to that point in code. To implement functions, you store necessary things to memory and goto the function definition. To implement that with comefrom you'd have to have a list of all the places that need to call the function as comefroms before the function definition. It'd be a mess to read. We almost never care where we are coming from. We care where we're going to. We want to say "call function foo" not "foo takes control at line x."

[–] polonius-rex@kbin.run 5 points 4 months ago

it's semantic

at the end of the day everything boils down to sequence and branchifs

[–] sudo@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago

Its like if subroutine bar could say its going to execute at line N of routine foo. But if you were just reading foo then you'd have no clue that it would happen.

You can simulate this effect with bad inheritance patterns.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

am i the only dumb fuck here who unironically likes this?

would make goto type situations much more usable

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 months ago

I don't see any case where this is better than a goto. A goto you can read progressively though. A comefrom you'd see written then have to track to that piece of code and remember there's a potential hidden branch there.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

It's basically a simpler version of a callback

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 months ago

more practical than goto

[–] starman@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago

Looks like C# 12 interceptors:

[InterceptsLocation(@"C:\testapp\Program.cs", line: 4, column: 5)]

I know it looks awful, but it's not intended for direct use, but rather for source generators for native ahead of time compilation.

https://andrewlock.net/exploring-the-dotnet-8-preview-changing-method-calls-with-interceptors/

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You’re gonna love HCF then!

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago