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Need to make a primal scream without gathering footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] hrrrngh@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

People are so, so, so bad at telling what's a bot and what's real. I know social media is swarming with bots, but if you're interacting with somebody who's saying anything more complicated than "P o o s i e I n B i o" it's probably not a bot. A similar thing happens in online games, too, and it's usually the excuse people use before harassing someone else

But damn the lengths people will go to to avoid admitting they were wrong. This comment chain just keeps going on with somebody who's convinced {origin="RU"}{faith="bad"}{election_manipulation="very yes"} must be real because something something microservices: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1dlg8ni/russian_bot_falls_prey_to_a_prompt_iniection/l9pbmrw/ It reads like something straight off /r/programming or the orange site

Then it comes full circle with people making joke responses on Twitter imitating the first post, and then other people taking those joke responses as proof that the first one must be real: https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1dimlyl/twitter_is_already_a_gpt_hellscape/l9691c8/

This account kind of kicked up some drama too, basically for the same reason (answering an LLM prompt), but it's about mushroom ID instead: https://www.reddit.com/user/SeriousPerson9 I've seen people like this who use voice-to-text and run their train of thought through ChatGPT or something, like one person notorious on /r/gamedev. But people always assume it's some advanced autonomous bot with stochastic post delays that mimic a human's active hours when like, it's usually just somebody copy/pasting prompts and responses.

Sorry if you contract any diseases from those links or comment chains

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

From the creators of “we turned your date formatting into a math equation, and now many of your research papers have substantially faulty data”, we bring you…

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

facebook caught intimidating brazilian researchers - they found scam ads falsely referring certain brazilian federal programme https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/16/meta_ads_brazil/

[–] ebu@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago

Asked to comment, a Meta spokesperson told The Register, "We value input from civil society organizations and academic institutions for the context they provide as we constantly work toward improving our services. Meta's defense filed with the Brazilian Consumer Regulator questioned the use of the NetLab report as legal evidence, since it was produced without giving us prior opportunity to contribute meaningfully, in violation of local legal requirements."

translation: they knew we would either squash the investigation attempt outright or change their research methodology and results until we looked like the good guys, and that kind of behavior cannot be tolerated

[–] corbin@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago

I'm not sure if they're a decent person or not, but I liked this sneer on the orange site, in the context of this recent rant (previously, on Awful), describing a hypothetical executive-humbling mechanism. I agree with them; I'd read that fanfiction too.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not sure where I got the link to this video from, could very well be from this place, but look 'Gamers' made an NFT game without blockchain and cryptocurrencies! And it will potentially lead to other Gamers being scammed! Innovation!

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Perplexity pulling a semi ouroboros. For effect, y’see? It’s not a completely consistent feature of the design or anything. That’s just crazy talk.

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