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I learned "pure" JS back in 2013, when HTML5 was brand new, and I still don't get most of the stuff going on nowadays.

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[–] delirium@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Always confused when I see memes like this

You learn js, then you learn a bit about ts and pick react/vue if you want to do frontend or nodejs if you're into backend. Then you do something basic, like a barebones twitter clone, weather app, etc. By the point when you're 80% done, you will know most important parts of the ecosystem naturally

After that, learning all the supporting libraries/frameworks is super simple since next is just superset around react, same for nuxt. Solid, svelte, fresh etc are just different flavors of react. Even vue is looking like react this days with composition api, simply because they nailed the simplicity and dev comfort. Average dev will never face weird js/ts parts or confusing libraries because most of their day to day job will be moving buttons and looking how to persist user basket in browser storage...

Sure there are a lot of libraries and ways to do stuff, but 90% of them are irrelevant, only-for-hobby or simply dead and unused since 2010. Knowing ts+(react|vue)+(vuex|redux-tk|mobx)+(styled|tailwind) will land someone a basic job where they can progress and expand their knowledge lol

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The joke is that nearly everything these libraries/frameworks do is complicate what used to be simple

[–] LPThinker@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is not true. The higher complexity of frameworks is unarguable, but it reflects the higher complexity of modern web apps. The reality is that React/Vue/Svelte achieve things that are simply infeasible with e.g. the LAMP stack or jQuery.

[–] akrz@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

well, they are theoretically feasible, but practically infeasible

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