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[–] delirium@lemmy.world 225 points 1 year ago (55 children)

This is fine, we just need to switch from plastic bugs and make caps attached to bottles and everything will be alright! Together we can fight at least 1% of the carbon emissions from top 100 corporations in the world :)

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 104 points 1 year ago (33 children)

I really think this narrative is counterproductive. It's not like corporations produce greenhouse gasses because they think it's fun. They're doing it to produce goods that people want at the absolute minimal price possible.

No corporation is going to choose more environmentally friendly practices out of the goodness of their own hearts unless those practices are cheaper. And given that that is very rarely the case, we have to look at things like carbon taxes to actually price in the externalities of climate damage. But that is going to increase the prices of some goods, and that requires a level of political will that has proven very difficult to come by. "Just make corporations pay" to fix things, whether that's a carbon tax or taxes on oil company executive pay or dividends or whatever else the proposal may be is always going to mean "increase prices to compensate for climate-related externalities".

That doesn't necessarily mean that all costs of addressing climate change must directly fall on consumers; government subsidies to reduce the costs of environmentally sustainable practices can also be extremely beneficial. But ultimately, this is a problem that we've all created, and we're all going to have to be part of solving it. Blaming corporations, even if partially accurate, doesn't actually get us any closer to solving things.

[–] Encode1307@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You get that nuance out of here, young man/woman! We won't have that kind of thing round these parts!

[–] kman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we please leave these canned responses on reddit

[–] Encode1307@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Can we leave simplistic, reductionist arguments on reddit?

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