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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 123 points 4 months ago (13 children)

Because the system is set up to prevent any real change for the benefit of the common people. So your choice is between the friendly, somewhat reasonable oligarchy stooge and the utterly deranged oligarchy stooge.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 4 months ago (12 children)

A somewhat less pessimistic take: the system is set up to be self-stable.

And it was also designed so that States would have most of the power, not the Federal government.

At various points in history the common people did get benefits. New Deal. Universal suffrage. Civil rights. Abolition.

But it always requires a critical mass of the population to support change.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Like in the 2016 election? Or in 2000? The system is set up to prevent the will of the people from being enacted and it takes a massive crisis for everyone to be pissed off enough to do something. Add to that the control of nearly all media by the oligarchy and you get to where we are today.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Both elections exactly prove my point.

The federal system is set up to favor State power, which is why the US presidential election isn't decided by popular vote. By design, Wyoming and California are considered equals in many respects.

It's a bad system, but it's very much entrenched in the constitution.

And it also requires critical mass. It's basically impossible to enact meaningful change with a 50-55% majority. You need 60% or more to get big changes. And a majority of states.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's the NPVIC which would cut the electoral college out of the process entirely.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago

Indeed - and I really hope it passes.

I thought about mentioning it in my previous comment. But basically, it's another example that States hold most of the power. The States actually have the power to effectively replace the current system with a national popular vote if they choose.

Other examples are the IRV in Alaska and the district system in Maine and Nebraska.

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