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xkcd #2948: Electric vs Gas (xkcd.com)

submitted 4 months ago by schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de to c/xkcd@lemmy.world

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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that's the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (18 children)

Electric cars is not the solution. Sure, it's an improvement, but for a real solution you need to get people out of personal vehicles on onto public transportation. Trains, trams, busses, whatever. Build it in a way that doesn't suck. Assuming american, the US had (past tense) amazing train/tram networks decades ago. Every warehouse had a rail spur, and since walking was considered ok people weren't obese fatasses.

I drive a scooter. It is possible to live without a car, although it does have some difficulties sometimes. If your job is within 10 miles of your home or less, then you don't need a car for your commute. If I can do it so can you. I'd still rather take a bus, if it existed.

[–] Emoba@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The issue with this stance is that it's one of those all-or-nothing points of view. Sure it's better to have good public transportation, but in a lot of places there won't be for the foreseeable future. Sure it's better to use bicycles, but sometimes it's just not an option.

Electric cars won't fix traffic, but for the planet they're still a vast improvement. It's like a viable 95% solution that is dismissed because there might a 100% one somewhere in the next 200 years.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The issue with this stance is that it’s one of those all-or-nothing points of view.

Not it isn't. Every single individual person who decides to live without a car is an improvement. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think they were trying to say that every individual who uses their car less is an improvement.

I live outside Boston, which has among the best transit in the US but it doesn’t take me everywhere. My town is quite walkable but also hilly and with weather. I do choose to walk, or ride the train when I can, but I still need a car. Improving this enough for most prople to dispense with cars will be a very long time. In the meantime, my use of EV, walk, train is a huge improvement of my brother in the Midwest using ICE car for everything

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