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[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (9 children)

There's easier, more effective battles to fight. People aren't giving up their SUV's, and they are a symptom of a bigger problem anyway. Good public transportation could eliminate millions of cars, roads, and road maintenance.

A few other ideas:

  • Coal power is disgusting and doesn't even make sense economically anymore.
  • Cruise ships and mega yachts should flat out be banned. They use a ton of energy and dump sewage right into the ocean
  • Heavily tax gas powered lawnmowers. They have a surprisingly large environmental impact because they have no pollution controls and often burn a mixture of oil and gas.
[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Also bunker fuel being burned in ocean shipping. Since there very little regulation they burn some of the worst sulfur-emitting fuel. A single container ship emits the equivalent of ~~something like a few hundred thousand~~ every car on the planet, ~~as I recall~~

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The biggest container ships produce more emissions than every car on the planet. Granted, I think there's at most a half dozen of those in operation, but that's still 6x more than every car on Earth.

I remember hearing that during COVID lockdowns the first year, an estimated 50% of cars were off the road and total annual emissions dropped 2%.

[–] ConfidentLonely@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just found that the 16 largest Ships emit as much as all cars. Did not check the source further.

But that really depends on how you measure and define pollution. As others have pointed out container ships are still pretty efficient. But of course they should get better too. Like everything!

Source: https://cedelft.eu/publications/the-basic-facts-how-do-the-emissions-of-ships-and-cars-really-compare/

As I have said, I did not fact check it further because it is quite late here. Just wanted to give information to that claim and please correct your statement (:

Appreciate it, because you and I probably read the same stats but I was pulling it from memory from whenever I heard it (like 7-10 years ago).

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