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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 39 points 5 months ago (16 children)

The venerable master Qc Na was walking with his student, Anton. Hoping to prompt the master into a discussion, Anton said "Master, I have heard that objects are a very good thing - is this true?" Qc Na looked pityingly at his student and replied, "Foolish pupil - objects are merely a poor man's closures."

Chastised, Anton took his leave from his master and returned to his cell, intent on studying closures. He carefully read the entire "Lambda: The Ultimate..." series of papers and its cousins, and implemented a small Scheme interpreter with a closure-based object system. He learned much, and looked forward to informing his master of his progress.

On his next walk with Qc Na, Anton attempted to impress his master by saying "Master, I have diligently studied the matter, and now understand that objects are truly a poor man's closures." Qc Na responded by hitting Anton with his stick, saying "When will you learn? Closures are a poor man's object." At that moment, Anton became enlightened.

[–] CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 months ago (15 children)

Can someone please enlighten me on what makes inheritance, polymorphism, an operator overloading so bad? I use the all regularly, and have yet to experience the foot cannons I have heard so much about.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Having to run a debugger to know what gets called at a given time is awful, and this oop practices exacerbate this

[–] CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

I am very fond of the idea of "stateless" code, which may seem strange coming from a person that likes OOP. When I say "stateless", I am really referring to the fact that no class method should ever have any side-effect. Either it is an explicit set method, or it shouldn't affect the output from other methods of the object. Objects should be used as convenient ways of storing/manipulating data in predictable/readable ways.

I've seen way too much code where a class has methods which will only work"as expected" if certain other methods have been called first.

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