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President Volodymyr Zelensky believes that Ukraine's partners "are afraid of Russia losing the war" and would like Kyiv "to win in such a way that Russia does not lose," Zelensky said in a meeting with journalists attended by the Kyiv Independent.

Kyiv's allies "fear" Russia's loss in the war against Ukraine because it would involve "unpredictable geopolitics," according to Zelensky. "I don't think it works that way. For Ukraine to win, we need to be given everything with which one can win," he said.

His statement came on May 16 amid Russia's large-scale offensive in Kharkiv Oblast and ongoing heavy battles further east. In a week, Russian troops managed to advance as far as 10 kilometers in the northern part of Kharkiv Oblast, according to Zelensky.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The west is legit afraid of Russia's collapse because once again someone will have to bail Russia out and it'll either be another 1988 mess or a new toy for China.

What will happen to Russia once it's fully in "war economy" and loses the war?

[–] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org -5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The west is legit afraid of Russia’s collapse because once again someone will have to bail Russia out

Yeah… that’s not what happened at all. What happened was the Western capitalist neocolonial plundering of the post-Soviet states through neoliberal shock therapy. And that’s why the US especially hates Putin: he kicked the plunderers out of Russia, interrupting their plundering.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Uh huh. Sure. He sure swapped those "plunderers" for his buddies so they could all buy billion dollar yachts.

[–] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s not how Russian oligarchs originally became oligarchs. They did it the same way it’s always done in neolocolonized countries: by being compradors to predatory foreign states and capitalists.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah. You're unable to discuss this topic without passing it through the "west is bad" filter. As someone who grew up in the eastern European block, you have no idea what you're talking about. When people parrot the "shock doctrine", they are not interested in analyzing history. They are interested in sounding rhetorically virtuous because right now "punching the west" is so hot even though it doesn't really contribute anything to the conversation.