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[–] art@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (15 children)

Banning websites in the year 2024 is never going to work. The average user is more savvy than the average lawmaker.

[–] Feyter@programming.dev 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (14 children)

IDK is the average TikTok user really installing VPN software on it's phone? And if something is banned in a country companies are far less likely to put in effort in it.

So even if people can still use it, technically, TikTok lifes of selling scam shit to people... If you have the skills to install a VPN your probably also not falling for that stuff.

I actually see that as a win. TikTok is not a platform for political discussion or private communication (by design) so I don't hate the idea of it getting banned.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

is the average TikTok user really installing VPN software on it’s phone

Depends on the country. If you're in India or China, absolutely. And those countries have the largest populations on Earth by more than 4x the #3 spot.

Some are even getting randomly arrested right off the street for using them: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/man-booked-for-using-vpn-in-j-ks-rajouri-3rd-such-case-in-2-days-5612508

[–] Feyter@programming.dev -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just because it's much more common in those countries compared to USA or Europe to use a VPN it doesn't mean the average user there is actually using them. If there are even regions where it's forbidden to use a VPN (than that's highly concerning more than a TikTok ban or anything else!) it's even more unlikely the average user will have VPN access.

And again all of my other points I think are much more important in that thought process.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Your initial point is that if someone is capable of installing a VPN, he is probably not a tiktok user.

But VPNs nowadays are extremely easy to setup. If for a tiktok user that means that they can access tiktok even though it is bannes in their country, they will follow a guide to set up a VPN, or a friend will show them.

There is literally no knowledge involved in that. So i'm not sure why you think VPN users are above that.

It worked for Netflix, it will work for tiktok.

[–] Feyter@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No my initial point is, that if you are boarding with how to setup a VPN you are probably not the main user that TikTok is generating money from.

Plus companies will probably not use a platform that is banned in a country to target people in that country.

And plus if you are willing to just Google or look up a single video tutorial about what a VPN is or how to set it up you are probably above of the average Internet user today.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Were you around during the ps1 era when you could go to someone and change a chip to play copied discs? That's the same thing here.

Someone has the know-how, he shares that info and that's it. There is no knowledge involved, and the person installing the VPN doesn't even need to know what it is called or what it does, as long as it allows them to watch tiktok.

Then that person tell their friends and it spreads. There is no technical knowledge.

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