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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] maketotaldestr0i@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (6 children)

whats americas incentive for attacking europes manufacturing and industry?

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Eliminating a competitor, causing a long-lasting disruption of relations to Russia, China, Iran et al and causing migration of energy-intensive branches of industry to the US. Bleeding vassals via comprador administrations is the prequel to domestic self-cannibalization. Latter being arguably also already in progress.

[–] maketotaldestr0i@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Perhaps i overestimate USAs friendliness with eurozone. I kind of just worked with the assumption that keeping europe solid was in USA national interest but i dont really know at any moment what special interests have their tentacles in the deep state. I figured blowing up the pipeline was to target russia with the european energy situation damage just being "collateral damage". I kind of have doubts usa elites were even clever enough to realize it would shift energy intense industry to usa. Hard for me to parse the malice and stupidity

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think we are already at the catabolic collapse stage where the elites are cannibalizing the periphery before the heartland. On the other hand the US has been also being stripped bare in patches for a while. So it is a simultaneous progressive process.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The US utilizes internal colonization of majority-minority communities and via the use of highly exploited migrant labor. The US seemingly stripping itself bare comes down to the process of internal colonization reaching a very high level. The homeland is a series of highly developed metropolitan islands in a sea of deindustrialization and poverty.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Nicely put. I fully agree with this description.

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