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In 2022, a Texas family filed a lawsuit against Apple for damaging their son's hearing after an Amber Alert went off while he was wearing Airpods. According to Google, the maximum volume of phone headphones is around 105 decibels. The family are claiming that the son now requires hearing aids after his eardrum ruptured.

Is this plausible?

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[-] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

No not a few seconds. Ever walked near a jackhammer 130dB in the street for a few seconds? That is significantly louder. In general anything over 85dB for a significant amount of time causes damage. Concerts top out at around 110dB and you don't see people popping eardrums there.

However if you have an ear infection so some other type of damage then maybe?

I read Texas so I'm going to assume it was due to shooting guns

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think it's very different if it is a clean digital noise. Acoustic sounds, even when loud, have a brief ramping up. Digital noise can appear like a wall from zero to 110dB in literally zero time for the ear to adjust.

The ear has tiny hairs that ~~raise to absorb sound and protect the hearing~~ (see comment for a correction). I know of somebody that had a digital noise cut right through them and cause permanent hearing loss. Their hairs were flattened and no longer work. I don't know the amplitude though.

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago

Just want to chime in and mention those tiny hairs aren't protective. They're hair cells, named because they have tufts of stereocilia, and are what your ear actually uses to hear. When they die, you lose hearing. There are two types, inner and outer, and while the outer can influence the amount of sound detected by the inner hair cells, they can only amplify, not reduce.

The ear protects itself against loud sounds by contracting the tensor tympani and stapedius muscles, dampening the eardrum and tensing and shifting back the ossicles, the small hearing bones of the ear. This all serves to reduce the amount of force transmitted to the inner ear but takes time to occur, so it can't protect against sudden loud noises, like a gunshot.

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh, thanks for the correction. I seem to have misunderstood the injury when I got it described to me.

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago

No worries! From your comments, you seem to be a bit of an audiophile. Just watch out, because audiophile forums are FULL of authoritative sounding BS.

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Haha, uh oh, I will try to not take offence. I'm in no way an audiophile, though I do have a nice stereo system for listening to music rather than listening to the equipment. I did venture into doing sound based arts and installations and stuff when I was younger though so I do have some insights of how sound works. It was a "colleague" l knew back then that had the injury mentioned from an incident in a sound studio. If memory serves me right it was an accidental digital feedback loop that hit the ears like a brick wall and despite it was less than a second it was enough to cause permanent damage.

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