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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 59 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Obama included gender, independent of sex, in anti-discrimination law for healthcare. Trump repealed it. Biden put it back.

[–] adhdplantdev@lemm.ee -5 points 6 months ago (11 children)

I mean obviously that's good news but how does this change anything besides adding additional guidelines to what a healthcare provider can refuse

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago (9 children)

It protects gender-affirming care on a federal level, for one. It also makes it illegal to discriminate against transgender and nonbinary people pursuing gender-related care.

[–] adhdplantdev@lemm.ee -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay that's good news but how does that relate to states that do have bans on gender affirming care like Texas? Does this give the hospital room to fight or something?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It overrules them. States cannot enact laws that are contrary to federal law. The laws that the states created were legal due to the absence of federal law, thanks to Trump’s repeal.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Cool, that's good then.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Those states and Individual healthcare providers are 100% going to ignore those laws. I live in a red state and we routinely flout federal law.

And you can only really legislate against discrimination that people are stupid enough to document. They won’t say that they aren’t treating me because I’m trans, but because of some other reason. Just like the job that recently fired me and refused to pay me for ANY of the work I did, didn’t officially fire me because I’m trans :)

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They will lose if a case is brought to court.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Bringing a case to court requires access to the financial means to hire a lawyer, or having a case egregious and documented enough to find a lawyer to work for you pro bono.

And you won’t be able to sue at all if you die because they refuse you care (I guess your family can 🤷‍♂️) - there have been multiple cases of transgender women dying because EMTs refused to treat.

Red states don’t operate by rule of law. Oklahoma had a police department recorded talking about how much they wanted to kill black folks last year, pretty much nothing happened.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think that the down votes are telling about the kind of crowd this instance attracts; they either refuse to accept that this is true or they've never seen it

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just maybe from a more optimistic world.

I’d love to be there. I’ve been fired from two different jobs for being trans - not even good jobs, day labor shit. My birth name still shows up on the background check.

Latest one is refusing to pay me, and insisting that I wasn’t even hired. I’ve reached out to the Labor department, but red states genuinely don’t give a shit. I’m probably just going to have to eat it.

With medical care, I’ve definitely overheard unpleasant conversations when they were deciding where to room me. The biggest scare is what happens if my current HRT provider is driven out of state - I used to use Planned Parenthood, but would have to wait 3-4 hours to be seen at my appointments….

This places aren’t livable for trans people. Please listen to a trans person, who lives in a red state. They do not give a shit what laws are on the books - OK and FL have already directed their schools to ignore Title IX guidelines. Laws will not protect us.

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/erins-2024-anti-trans-legislative

[–] eldavi@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

you're preaching to the choir; i've also had the bad luck of experiencing my government shit on me and having others refusie the believe it happened (like those on the fediverse are doing to you rn) and i get that reminder of it every time someone says that biden is the most pro-lgbt president we've ever had.

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