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Original Fallout lead Tim Cain loves the new show, but remains baffled by how 'destructive' fans can act toward 'people who are trying to create things' (www.pcgamer.com)

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Cain appreciated the performances and storytelling, but singled out how the show nailed the Fallout "vibe" as its biggest achievement. "I was just looking at all the props," he said of one scene. "I realized after a few minutes went by that I had not followed the dialogue at all, because I was so engrossed by it visually."

On a more sour note, Cain took time to address the way fans of the series can behave poorly online, particularly regarding any perceived rivalry between Fallout entries developed by Bethesda (3, 4, and 76), and those from Interplay, Black Isle, and Obsidian (1, 2, and New Vegas). Cain spoke positively of Todd Howard, and said that "Some of the stuff you [series fans] say online is so off." See also: the debate about whether the show somehow overrode or ignored the events of those non-Bethesda games, which has since been denied by a senior developer at the studio.

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[–] ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io 77 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (18 children)

I read a review that said the show was "too woke". I haven't seen anything that's woke except that a non-binary character exists and is referred to as "them", and the shopkeepers in Filly seem to be lesbians but it's not explicitly stated. It's annoying seeing the word "woke" but it's also kind of nice that it's easy to spot the dipshits. Anyone using the word "woke" probably sucks big time.

[–] preach224@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

i’m pretty sure the subtext of “woke” is “there are women and non-white people here”

same with “dei,” i suppose - all goes back to not liking women and poc 🙃

[–] T156@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

i’m pretty sure the subtext of “woke” is “there are women and non-white people here”

Or that the women in it aren't explicitly tailored to their tastes. There's a post going around some places about someone trying to "correct" the image of one of the characters to make them less "woke" (they were wearing a baggy jumpsuit). The resulting character's back-end looks like it's been plastiform sealed.

[–] preach224@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

i had forgotten all about Alloy and…was it Lara Croft?…and people “correcting” their appearances, good point!

[–] VoterFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm guessing this is it. The setting is a 1950's culture but without the racism and sexism that were rampant at the time. Women and POC holding significant positions in the corporate world, which never would've happened in the actual 1950s. It is a fictional world, of course. People seem to forget that.

[–] beardown@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Which doesn't really make sense given how jingoistic and rabidly anticommunist the pre war 1950s United States is depicted as being.

Why would such a country ever end racial segregation, let alone permit LGBT acceptance? That would require a massive cultural shift, that is worth at least an entire episode of its own. Without such an explanation it just doesn't really make sense

The show is fake and made up, and so are the games, obviously. But the racial and sexual acceptance depicted doesn't really make sense. Obviously there's no problem in depicted characters that aren't cishet white men. But why would such characters ever be treated as equal in such a fascist depiction of the United States?

[–] Iapar@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago

Sounds like "woke" is a compliment then. Better then to be asleep and have no clue about what's going on.

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