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German govt orders another 20 Marder infantry fighting vehicles for Ukraine – Rheinmetall
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this post was submitted on 09 Apr 2024
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Why can't we all just get together at tell Rheinmetall, Nammo, etc. that we'll buy as much as they can produce for the next five years, with possibilities for extensions?
The primary issue here is that with orders coming piecewise, manufacturers don't have a strong enough incentive to ramp up production a hundred fold, which is what we need. That would also presumably reduce the per-unit production costs.
@phoenixz @CapeWearingAeroplane Wake up, it is already needed!
Europe is not at war yet, hope it never will be
@phoenixz @rogerhaase
Europe is already at war, and it started much before 24.02.2024!
Europeans just do not want to get this fact.
Yeah you need to calm down, and read a few dictionary definitions. Europe is NOT at war.. Ukraine is, and you can start yammering about technicalities but you know damn well that there is a difference.
Yes, Russia is fucking about (and finding out) but if Russia actually attacks Europe it's over. Likely not only for Russia, but for the world as that would immediately though NATO result in WWIII. Nukes WILL be involved, Russia will become a waste land and, depending on if Russia's nukes still work (there is a non zero chance that a very large amount are no longer functional), Europe and the US too.
Let's hope cooler.kinds prevail, as before. In the meantime though, stop panicking.
@phoenixz
I know what you mean, but... just a few facts to remind.
Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine are the part of Europe, geographically.
Russia is constantly participating in European wars.
No panics! I'm a Ukrainian!
1 is beyond speculative.
All your points are from before the Ukraine war when people feared the Russian army. Let's just say that the Ukrainian war really changed that perspective.