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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] PapaFredranco@lemmy.fmhy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even if these ships were squeaky clean, I don't understand the appeal of cruises. The environmental impact seals the deal for me.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I love going on cruises, but if there's one reason I won't it's the environmental impact.

Honestly we should consider any ship running on bunker fuel to be an active military threat.

Those ships are going to be a significant part of the multiple Katrina-level events I expect to hit Florida in the next 15 years.

Is it okay to accept missile launches against the continental United States as long as the weapon is real slow?

[–] PapaFredranco@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Genuinely curious, what do you like about going on cruises?

[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I'd rather not effectively try to sell people on cruises, but a balcony on the ocean is pretty awesome. Once you're on the ship it tends to be lower stress than typical traveling. And most importantly, no cars. Fuck cars.

You can probably accomplish a lot of the same just by going with a good group of friends to a non-cruise destination. Maybe the people I went with was the biggest part of the experience.