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Israel again massacres Palestinian civilians who had gathered to obtain humanitarian aid in Gaza
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this post was submitted on 15 Mar 2024
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Is there any point at which the US would allow international pressure to end this genocide? When does it become strategically disadvantageous?
Not as long as Democrat politicians know they can continue to count on our votes while they take money from the Zionist lobby and do their bidding. But don't you dare suggest not voting for Genocide Joe on here. Anyone who would suggest such a thing must be an astroturfing Trump troll. After all, what's a little genocide in the big picture?
PS: The Zionist lobby isn't an antisemitic dog whistle. In the US, the Zionist lobby probably gets more support from rabid fundamentalist Christians who think Israel's ascendancy will trigger the end times than from Jews. That's been true since the Blackstone Memorial was circulated in 1891.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone_Memorial
No one wants to hear it discussed because it's a fucking dumb strategy, like, what effect do you think it'll actually have? You vote for the guy that's most likely to actually do something about it rather than vote to sink the entire fucking ship because your having a temper tantrum. You're insane if you think that's even a remotely viable strategy. I can't believe you're even bringing it up like it's a "good" idea...like wtf.
You can check my post history. I'm rabidly against this genocide. The IDF has gone unchecked and their treatment of an "enemy populace" is a fucking warcrime. Something needs to be done. But if you think for a second that I or any other rational adult here is going to even remotely humor the idea of doing something that could get Trump elected, you are out of your damned mind.
How many genocidal deaths per month (under a dem administration) would it take for you to withhold your vote for a dem? 1 thousand, 1 million, 10 million? I suspect there is no amount.
Let me rephrase this better:
How many genocidal deaths (in a totally different country than your own) per month would it take for you to destroy your government and see it overtaken by an Alt-Right Dictatorship? 1 thousand, 1 million, 10 million? I suspect there is no amount.
It'd be on thing if "a dem administration" was the one causing the genocide. They aren't. But I agree that they could be doing more to stop it. It won't get better under Trump, so this game of "Morality chicken" your playing with our entire future here is fucking dumb.
They’re more concerned about their “livelihood” than doing the right thing.
The daily death toll on Israel has been plummetting by 20% per month since the beginning of the conflict.
Nope. Not as long as we can continue our comfortable lives over here. Not as long as it's people who don't look like us--who don't speak our language--doing the dying. Not as long as we can block "Gaza" from our feed when it starts to become a real downer.
When one of the most powerful nations in the world becomes a dictatorship, how do you think that'll affect the world? What do you think happens to the last 200 years of progress? What do you think will continue to happen in Gaza?
It isn't like this is an isolated decision. Not voting has a very real and fucking dangerous consequence, and you need to realize that sometimes there aren't good decisions and you have to make the best of it. Sitting out and pouting doesn't do shit but make things worse for everyone else. So stop acting like a petulant child. No one in this entire fucking thread is even remotely supportive of genocide, but you'll be damned if I'm going to see my country become a dictatorship because of events in other countries because one side "isn't doing enough".
What do you think happens when the people of the most powerful democracy in the world look the other way when their elected officials commit genocide?