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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 179 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

Phones should be turned off or left at home anyways when protesting. Here are my 10 commandments for engaging in protests:

1: never bring your wallet/ID. If you need to buy things, bring cash

2: either shut off your phone or leave it with your wallet. Recording police violence can be useful, in that case get the aclu app, a burner phone with the app, or an action camera

3: never speak to police under any circumstance

4: you can beat the charge but you can't beat the ride

5: bring water, it's more useful than for just drinking

6: bring hats, sunglasses, etc to avoid being identified by the state if it gets violent

7: wear good running shoes

8: know your rights, both federal and local, and when to use them

9: take out any contact lenses in case police use tear gas

10: stay aware of your surroundings; listen to picket line enforcers/community organizers

[–] Mr_Figtree@kbin.social 62 points 1 year ago (5 children)

These are all fine in the US, but in other countries not carrying proof of identity can get you into some trouble, as can refusing to talk to the police. Know your local laws.

[–] ThorCroix 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It is what people say about Germany but my teacher says that she didn't have an id card for 10 years and only got one because of tour to a place organised by her university required to show id card to be put in their touring list. As far as her experience goes, no authority ever put her in trouble for not carrying an ID.

The same way that the police never put me in trouble for mu id card not having my address.

About not talking to the police, it is actually a right you have in Germany despite popular gossip saying otherwise.

The problem of not talking to the police is that the police can create reasons to put you in troubles for not doing so, as the police have the privilege of authority, power and legal/public trust.

But when questioned by the police, if it is worth, you have the right to have e lawer to answer it for you or to guide you on your answer according to laws.

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, depends on the country and the laws. Growing up in Turkey, the first question my parents would ask me when I was heading out would be: "Do you have your ID on you?"

Getting caught without ID meant the police had any excuse they needed to bring you in and do whatever they wanted with you. While under normal conditions that isn't a problem, you never know when things are about to go awry and lead you into an altercation from which you can't return.

E.g. a misunderstanding between you and a cop in a dark alley, matching the description of a perp they're looking for while looking suspicious, saying something you shouldn't while in a place you shouldn't be, etc.

Keep your ID on you, avoid loud/aggressive crowds, and don't talk to cops if you don't have to. Wise advice for those living in tumultuous regions of the world.

[–] Rakn@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

I’d say it’s likely the same in Germany. Just depends on the circumstances.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

If you're protesting, just expect to be arrested. Police already have reasons to want to arrest you, so talking to police only really gives them material to prosecute you when you are taken into custody. Talking to them may reduce their temptation to arrest you, but it certainly increases the chances they can charge you.

Don't talk to the police, full stop. Doesn't matter if you're completely innocent, DONT TALK TO THEM. This is good advice generally but essential if you are protesting.

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