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A federal judge yesterday ordered the Biden administration to halt a wide range of communications with social media companies, siding with Missouri and Louisiana in a lawsuit that alleges Biden and his administration violated the First Amendment by colluding with social networks "to suppress disfavored speakers, viewpoints, and content."

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[–] Advanced_Visual@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (52 children)

You couldn't know they didn't have data if they didn't have the ability to present it. Once censored, it's impossible to tell what media is, that's the point of censorship.
You can't know if what was censored was false information, if you don't have the data on what was said.

Questioning is the heart and soul of science. Doubting included.

To censor doubt is a demand for agreement, and an intimidation of dissent.

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (26 children)

People posting pro horse-medicine posts on social media aren't ever going to be doing anything close to "science".

And this romantic concept of "questioning is the heart and soul of science" is just a banal platitude. Rigorous testing and record keeping is the heart and soul of science. Latching on to conspiracy theories is not even tangentially related to science.

[–] C4RP3_N0CT3M@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (25 children)

You've got to do your homework. This has already been proven to be a false narrative set up by MSNBC and CNN (and their subsidiaries). You're behind. Ivermectin has been prescribed to humans for decades.

[–] LifeInOregon@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But not for coronaviruses. For parasites. And not in the doses that are intended for animals, but for humans. And not purchased from a farm supply store, but through a pharmacy.

[–] C4RP3_N0CT3M@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not what I said though. They spread a lie by saying it was only for horses, and were never silenced or corrected. They were allowed to lie. "Rules for thee, but not rules for me."

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some people were actually buying the horse variant of it...

[–] C4RP3_N0CT3M@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd like a verified source showing this was actually occurring at any sort of large scale. Assuming you have it, does that make it okay to suggest Ivermectin (the drug) is only for horses like the media did? Is lying okay when it's done to save lives? I'm just curious.

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] C4RP3_N0CT3M@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That story uses only anecdotal, non-scientifically recorded data. 50 - 60 calls a day simply to ask about it, and one or two cases of people actually using it. This same story claims people were drinking hand sanitizer, I guess we need to start lying about that as well.

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Poison centers are still responding to events related to COVID-19," said Julie Weber, president of the American Association of Poison Control Centers and director of the Missouri Poison Center. "On average, we are getting over 40 to 50 calls per day in addition to what we would normally get pre-pandemic."

Unless you are saying the president of Missouri's Poison Center is lying, then this is still substantive.

And more than what you have provided so far. Can't claim it is lie either without evidence.

[–] C4RP3_N0CT3M@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They literally don't provide any data. It could be one call and they'd say they're "still responding."

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] C4RP3_N0CT3M@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't even say the 50-60 calls they are getting are just for Ivermectin, just that they're related to COVID. Why do you think they worded it that way, to be misleading maybe?

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You didn't read the article did you?

[–] C4RP3_N0CT3M@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're being extremely disrespectful. I did in fact read the article, but it's clearly a biased article with no actual measured data.

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No you didn’t. It talks about it.

Making another claim about bias won’t help you. And still leaves the rest of what I said.

[–] C4RP3_N0CT3M@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll not be discussing with you further. Why would I? You are literally just repeating that I didn't read the article, and have made no claims against what I said. I think we should censor YOU since I know I read it but you keep claiming I didn't, which could be classified as misinformation.

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you are admitting you are wrong and aren’t acting in good faith. The literal next section of that article mentions it.

Just repeating yourself won’t make you right. And above all else, you haven’t proven anything today.

[–] C4RP3_N0CT3M@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firstly, you saying I'm admitting that I'm wrong is arguing in bad faith by definition, as I never said that. Quote the part of the article you're talking about specifically, and I'll refute that, that way I'll be forced to read it. Also, ciritizing me for repeating myself is ironic considering you keep repeating yourself.

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Still not wrong

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