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[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 78 points 9 months ago (32 children)

$1,731 in today's USD is $37,392. That new car would be $18k, rent was just over $500. There's places in the US where average rent is close to that, and I bet if we removed NYC and the Bay area the national average wouldn't be super far off.

Education and staples are where you're getting drilled on a daily basis. Harvard costs many times the average national income rather than being a fraction of it.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 64 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (12 children)

Someone's overlooking the low low cost of buying a house back then. Essentially 2 years of salary. Housing where I live is now 20 years of median salary and about 19 years of average salary, and far more once you consider a loan.

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (8 children)

House sizes have also ballooned. The average home size in 1949 was ~900 sq ft, whereas a new home now is ~2500 sq ft. It was still cheaper, but those homes prices are for a lot less house than people are imagining.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My relatively small house (~1200 sq ft) was built in 1950 and is currently appraised at $550k, so it's not just house size. Granted, I live in a highly-desirable west coast city and the lot is worth more than the house itself, but the point remains.

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I agree, it’s definitely not just house size. But still, I’m not sure that your one data point anecdote is very meaningful. Desirable areas were more expensive in the 1950s too.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 9 months ago

True, however, the concentration of wealth has meant that desirable areas are far more out of reach for the middle class than they were in the 1950s when unionization was at an all-time high and the difference between a highly-educated professional vs a skilled tradesman was more a matter of what kind of car they drove and how big their house was rather than what we see now which is working people being priced out of entire markets.

I got lucky because my wife and I bought our house when the neighborhood we're in was still seen as the ghetto. We bought it because it was the only thing we could afford and it was relatively close to my wife's parents, but since then the neighborhood has rapidly gentrified and our property value has gone way up.

This wouldn't be an issue in a country wherein wealth is not so egregiously concentrated at the top.

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