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Recycling in the US (and many Western countries, for that matter) is a sham. It always was.

In reality, most of the plastic placed in recycling bins were never turned into new products.

Now China has stopped taking that waste, the myth of near infinite consumption without the guilt of waste has been exposed for the lie that it always was.

That's not to say that we shouldn't aim for a sustainable circular economy. Of course we should.

But we'll need much bigger changes to make it happen.

"For decades, we were sending the bulk of our recycling to China—tons and tons of it, sent over on ships... But last year, the country restricted imports of certain recyclables... Waste-management companies are telling [municipalities] there is no longer a market for their recycling.

"These municipalities have two choices: pay much higher rates to get rid of recycling, or throw it all away.

"Most are choosing the latter.

"When [its kerbside recycling] program launched, Franklin [in New Hampshire] could break even on recycling by selling it for $6 a ton. Now the transfer station is charging the town $125 a ton to recycle, or $68 a ton to incinerate.

"This end of recycling comes at a time when the US is creating more waste than ever. In 2015, the most recent year for which national data are available, America generated 262.4 million tons of waste, up 4.5% from 2010 and 60% from 1985."

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/03/china-has-stopped-accepting-our-trash/584131/

#Recycling #CircularEconomy #Politics @green #ClimateChange #Environment

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[–] Urban_Hermit@mstdn.social 5 points 1 year ago (20 children)

@ajsadauskas @green

The fact that my food comes in an endless stream of plastic instead of just waxed paper is not my choice. The companies that make these products should be held legally responsible. Non recyclable plastics should be illegal for disposable purposes, and the plastics should be taxed enough to run regional recycling centers - with it being illegal to NOT use a certain percentage of the plastics recovered from these centers.

[–] Urban_Hermit@mstdn.social 3 points 1 year ago (17 children)

@ajsadauskas @green

This is a problem with a clear legal solution, and guilting consumers into feeling responsible is not effectively solving it and never will. Nor was it really designed to, it was just a scheme to divert responsibility.

[–] siobhansarelle@tech.lgbt 1 points 1 year ago (15 children)

@Urban_Hermit @ajsadauskas @green

Rather than calling it guilting, perhaps take it as good advice?

Often essentially all the focus is placed on the companies who produce the stuff, then we go and buy little plastic bottles of cola.

We don’t need to drink cola.

Clearly in that case, in buying the cola, we are putting brief pleasure and convenience over the environment. Maybe while telling ourselves we have a conscience and trying to place the responsibility solely with companies that exist because people buy the product.

[–] Urban_Hermit@mstdn.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@siobhansarelle @ajsadauskas @green

No, we are not.

The plastic bottles that we buy Coke in are fairly recyclable, and they can be used as high quality water bottles a hundred times before they are recycled. Most of the plastic waterproof containers, as well as glass jars, tin cans, aluminum cans, and paper cartons - all that is well recyclable.

But, all those bags that you have to rip open and the films that your food is wrapped in, that is not.

[–] Urban_Hermit@mstdn.social 2 points 1 year ago

@siobhansarelle @ajsadauskas @green

Those flimsy, contaminated, torn, light weight films and plastic coated boxes are nearly unrecyclable and they are contaminating our environment. And I am telling you and everyone on Mastodon that wax paper is a simple, moisture proof solution. No one needs to feel guilty for eating the food they can afford, and for decisions they did not consent to.

This is easy, there is no reason to fight it.

[–] siobhansarelle@tech.lgbt 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Urban_Hermit @ajsadauskas @green

We have climate crisis.

We have people buying unnecessary stuff that unnecessarily uses up resources, energy, fossil fuels, and pollutes the environment.

Clearly largely we are putting pleasure and convenience over the environment and climate crisis.

I don't see how that could be denied.

[–] Urban_Hermit@mstdn.social 2 points 1 year ago

@siobhansarelle @ajsadauskas @green

No one is denying it.

Do what you can, where you can.

Closing the loop and saying that disposable products that can not be recycled should not be produced is a good thing. Doing this good thing does not prohibit other good things from being done. In fact, it helps to confirm a precedent.

Consumers are not clamoring for unrecyclable trash. That is not where the demand is.

Don't conflate issues unnecessarily. Pls.

[–] Lats@aus.social 1 points 1 year ago

@Urban_Hermit @siobhansarelle @ajsadauskas @green honestly, why drink Coke? It cleans coins FFS. There is an isle in the supermarket that only contains drinks like this in plastic bottles. Capitalism and no social conscience.

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