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My problem with bubble zones is that they're A) difficult to enforce, and B) protesting should be inconvenient. If we only allow protests in certain places, they're extremely easy to ignore. This goes for any kind of protest on any issue.
In an ideal world, I don't really want kids exposed to protests. But protests are only really effective when they take place where you don't want them. If protests for trans rights only ever took place in a cordoned off area safely away from everyone, they wouldn't be very effective either.
Parents should have a say what is being taught to their kids. LGBT values are an invasive culture change that is being pushed on kids without the interests of the parents in mind. This was equally true of the way Christianity was pushed on kids. I have always supported the secularization of schools. I don't want the government teaching my kid what to believe. They should learn fact-based sciences and important life skills, values should be taught by the parents.
For the record, I've been an LGBT supporter all of my life. I've always preached acceptance of other people no matter their beliefs or circumstances. I've only recently had to start pushing back because I believe certain parts of the LGBT culture are not suitable for children. It does not make you evil or a bigot to seek compromise. We all have to live together in this nation, we need to find ways to make peace with each other.
No, I’m afraid you haven’t been. For example, there was that time you wrote:
Some of those kids are gay, some are bi, some are trans, some are ace, some are intersex, the list goes on. Every one of them deserves acceptance and support, whether their parents agree or not. A queer child’s safety and well-being shouldn’t depend on winning the supportive-parent(s) lottery. And even with a supportive parent, a hostile school environment can lead to suicidal ideation. Any guess as to how I know that?
Sure, but which parts do you mean? Because lately, the rhetoric has mostly been about “drag queen story hour” which is really just reading books while playing fancy dress-up. There’s nothing inherently harmful or even sexualized about it.
I'm guessing that "certain parts" for them is simply trans people being visible. They should be aware of the high risk of suicide as they claim they were formally a therapist in a past comment, but they disagree with the value of gender affirming care so I really doubt there's any semblence of compassion for queer people in that ugly little heart of theirs. What kind of person reviews the body of evidence that shows it saves lives and think "this LGBTQ stuff is going too far", jfc
I looked up the past comment you mentioned. And just… Wow. 😐
Hah! To true. He supports LGBT rights…to be somewhere else.
I'm curious what they mean by "certain parts of the LGBT culture are not suitable for children". I'm assuming he means the sex, so sure. But that's a bit of a strawman. No one says that accepting Timmy having a Mom and a Dad means they are indoctrinating Timmy to raw-dawg it. Likewise Tommy having two Moms or Tammy having two Dads isn't advocating a specific sexual practice. Or at least not any more directly than so-called "traditional values" would supposedly advocate the raw-dawging.
I guess it's the old "I'm not a racist, some of my best friends are [insert race identifier here], but…" has been around for a long time. This is just "I'm an LGBT supporter, but they shouldn't be allowed to exist in polite society" or something.
Yup. "I don't mind that they exist, as long as I don't have to see them" is a shithead opinion as old as time. Sometimes it's racist, sometimes it's sexist, sometimes it's classist, sometimes it's homophobic, sometimes it's transphobic, but it's always the same thing. It's 'other'ist, people looking for another group of people they can look down on and hate.
It's a very good motivator, if you're an unscrupulous politician looking to exploit people's biases