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Boy, 15, given official warning after saluting as neo-Nazis marched through Ballarat
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 11 Dec 2023
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I normally try to engage at eye level and not be condescending. But if this following bit comes across as condescending, then that is with full intent.
I cannot possibly express in words how utterly naïve the notion of 'fighting fascism with inclusion' is. I've been around for long enough to see that it doesn't work. Neo-Nazis haven't been around since yesterday. The whole inclusion shtick has been tried, over and over and over. And what's happened? They've become more emboldened and more omnipresent. Some 30 years ago there were massive Neo-Nazi marches and violent incidents in Germany, when Neo-Nazis set fire to asylum seeker housing in several places. Back then there were many shocked faces, and outrage, and yet we had the same voices urging calm and to engage them at eye level and not oppress them. Did it work? Fuck no.
And that whole idea of sunlight being the best disinfectant... yeah nah.
The only way to fight fascism is to make unequivocally clear that it has no place in modern society. None whatsoever.
And since you brought homosexuality into the mix, there is a key difference here: being a fascist is a choice - being homosexual is not. You are born with your sexuality, you can't choose to be not homosexual. But you can choose to not be a fascist. However, in spite of all attempts at inclusion and meeting these people at eye level over decades, more and more of them decide they want to be fascists. How much longer would you like to try for?
I understand your frustration, and also the need to come across as condescending. You're probably the downvote on my comment. You want to punish me, don't you?
See, that feeling you are feeling... that frustration. It isn't unique to you.
The primary driver in fascism is emotion. Fear, anger, frustration. Stong human emotion that lead to feeling like other people are lesser than yourself. The bad guy. The evil one. The ones that must be stopped.
Those strong feelings and the desire to shush the words of the other are exactly the kinds of things that lead to extremes.
Having strong feelings toward other people are as natural and normal as homosexuality.
When I say inclusion, I'm not talking about inviting the Nazi to roast the Jew at dinner. I'm talking about inviting everyone, Jew, Christian, Atheist, Hindu, Muslim, everyone, to dinner and giving each a timer to talk.
It sounds hokey as fuck, but we need to learn to love each other as we love ourselves. Only then, can Nazi's cease to exist. If you repress people, it only makes the hate stronger.
Anyway, there is a portion of the population that is incapable of what I mentioned above. For them, there is no cure. For them, they must be watched. If -and only if- they cause harm to others, then they need to be jailed to protect everyone else. But... I believe they're (thankfully) rare. For everyone else, there's hope
'Here is why you are objectively wrong.'
'I'm sorry you feel that way. '
Stop talking.
You are just as entitled to your opinion as I am, and I won't be silenced by you, or anyone else for that matter.
You can stomp your feet and whine all you want to. I wouldn't even try to stop you even if I could. You know why?
Just because I disagree with you, doesn't mean I wouldn't defend your right to disagree with me. Hate me if you want to, it's your right as a human being to feel however it is that you will feel
Nobody said you can't speak, jackass. People are telling you why should stop saying dumb shit.
Your response to "shut up" shouldn't be the same as an actual stomping-and-whining child, going "make me!" like it's a matter of ability.
Ok, toddler
Dull.