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  • No server operator needs to federate with you.
  • No server operator needs to tolerate things they don't want on their instance.
  • No user of an instance needs to personally curate their own extensive never ending blocklist of users and channels they don't want to see.

Quit your pseudo-intellectual whining and choose what instance(s) work for you. If you think regularly interacting with shit content somehow helps you stay out of an echo chamber then go ahead and make a second account on those garbage instances full of hateful people. Then you can read both the decent servers and the trash ones and be the fedora wearing ackshually right fair and balanced uber nerd you always wanted to be.

Edit: The huge number of upvotes on this post compared to the low numbers on the whiney imposers' posts is proof of exactly where this community places its priorities.

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[–] spark947@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Buddy, you can always host your own instance. Most places will not de-federate small instances if they don't act inappropriately. This is the only way to build something sustainable that can't be taken away by someone.

[–] crowlemo@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yes. I also can develop my own social website. Both are efforts that are not worth it to undertake to just participate in this environment, which, will make the default barrier of entry a ridiculous one (or an authortiarian minded one).

No. It's not. When the power is on decentralized Ids that the instance doesn't have so much power over, then it will be more interesting. As it stands, it offers actually less than Reddit, which is incredible to me (I'm super onboard with descentralization and user power but this is not user power).

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's really not that hard. Just host it on your computer, or find a smaller instance that everyone will federate with.

[–] crowlemo@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you suggest that smaller instance? Meeaw and sh.it, the 2 instances I tried keep defederating left and right and justifying bullying as long as it confirms to their political opinions.

It's hypocritical, circlejerky and boring. Made me go back to Reddit. I don't understand how this paradigm of no user control without the absurd friction of self hosting is better for the user unless you're a niche authoritarian who is fully subservient to some admin.

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one I'm on is federated everywhere, although I think it also defederates the nazi instances. I think you might have to accept that people just don't want to communicate with nazis.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That might be too much to ask of them 🤷

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, its the same old story.

Lemmy gives you unprecedented power to communicate with people who share your beliefs. If you really want to communicate with nazis so badly no one is stopping you from hosting your own instance and getting your own domain.

The issue is that nazis don't want to just communicate with others that share their beliefs, they want to force others to abide by them - the bedrock of fascism. So they always resort to dishonest tactics to try to make this happen.

I am almost a libertarian when it comes to this. If you want to be weird nazis and talk about how much I deserve to die for existing go do it in your weird corner. Just keep it away from me, you weirdos.

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