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What was the subreddit that represented to you the best example of downspiral of quality? To me it was /r/dataisbeautiful (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by PabloDiscobar@kbin.social to c/RedditMigration@kbin.social

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At first it was all about presenting data in an original looking way. In the end it was about pushing political ideas in your throat using a plain bar graph. It was not about sharing something interesting you found but about taking advantage of a captive audience.

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[–] LostCause@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

r/antiwork before say 2020 and even worse after the Fox thing, a lot of trolls came in once it got big and where before it was fun discussions on anarchist antiwork theory that coined the name, with some venting and support or discussing how a different society might look like.

Then it became the usual political battleground like many big subs, all about who to vote for in the US and a repost place for latestagecapitalism, then all the text quitting or firing screenshots and tipping battles for some reason, which I‘d also not seen before then. Oh and all the nationalist humble bragging which seemed condescending to me as EU person towards the US people and at the same time dismissive of issues in the EU too. I guess it could be summed up with: it felt more hostile to me.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What happened to antiwork was fantastic. It was created by someone who was lazy and did not wanted to work. Then it got co-opted by people who wanted to work. Finally he was kicked as a mod for sticking to the name and spirit of his sub. He had his cosy sub and he was invaded by workers.

How can you seriously claim to be pro-work but follow the banner of someone who claimed long ago to be antiwork? Why were they all shocked? Just read the sign, antiwork, it's the name!! Don't you listen to the people you chose to follow?

watches the TV --> "Ho no, our leader is antiwork!"

Just create your own thing.

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I already elaborated enough on this from my own perspective, so instead I‘ll use this next laziness dig to conform to this view of me and lazily quote something random I like:

This struggle, for a world of free association and play, has been placed under the banner of antiwork and anarchy. Personally, I’m fond of post-work, because I think it better encapsulates my desire to both oppose and propose, to move against and beyond this detour, this phase of destruction called work, but the term antiwork does what it needs to do too. There have been attempts to co-opt and defang this liberatory project, but despite the recent online drama, this struggle is older than the Internet, and it will continue unabated, because I believe the impulse to be free is one of the defining attributes of the human experience, and this system is fundamentally unfree. Once liberated from the shackles of employment, people will be free to sloth and to slack, but also to do and to act. Humans are verbing creatures. We should fight for a world where we can verb to fulfil our needs and express ourselves instead of line pockets and destroy the Earth. All power to all the people.

Peace.

[–] dipbeneaththelasers@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am supremely glad you're on the Fediverse talking about these things in such an honest and eloquent way. Thank you, and followed.

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Oh wow nobody ever followed me before, I’m not sure if that will be a great experience for you, cause I sometimes post kinda random or darker thoughts and then get embarrassed and delete it after a few minutes.

Anyway if you liked those comments specifically, I get a lot of it from reading various texts on here: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/special/index

There is a LOT though, but sorting by popular or choosing certain tags that appeal gives some good stuff to read.

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