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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 80 points 11 months ago (13 children)

My country blew a hole in that logic by making essentially any government issued document a virtual certificate accessible through a permanente code.

You can get one copy, scan and email it indefinetely and all entities receiving only need to check the permanent code online.

It was complete chaos when it rolled out, especially for old, outdated, progress resisting entities.

[–] Hupf@feddit.de 25 points 11 months ago (10 children)

especially for old, outdated, progress resisting entities.

Like government agencies?

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 30 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Not really, in this case. It was the government issuing the new format, so it was the early adopter; some services are even interconnected and share information in real time.

In this case, it was more about banks, telecoms, energy and water companies.

[–] Sequence5666@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This sounds very efficient of your country. Where are you from ?

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] crushyerbones@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hah I was about to say they tried this in Portugal but a lot of agencies (especially foreign ones) simply have no capacity to deal with digital certificates.

Hell I went to a public university a couple of years ago and they demanded I show them a stamped document proving that I'm employed.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

That's a different beast. Private entities are still lacking on that front but catchinf on fast.

[–] Hupf@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is one those things that intrigues me.

If joining a federal government, the principle implies there is the recognition there is something good to contribute for said federation but also handicaps the federation can assist in solving.

This follows that when one member of the federation develops a solution for a problem, other members emulate it. The same way, when the federal level develops a solution for a problem, all members apply it in the exact same terms: no if, but or commas.

Yet it seems this is never what happens when dealing with federal governance.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What happens in practice is that any solution already developed by another member is basically taboo because the members do want to be seen as leading, not following so every member develops their own "solution" that is slightly different "just because".

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Waste of:

  • time
  • money
  • brains
[–] Shialac@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

For real... maybe we will get something like that in germany in like a hundred years when they finally stop using fax machines lmao

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