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[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Yeah i don't think that's a real argument.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca -3 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Yes it is, unless you think Israel doesn't have a right to protect it's citizens and you're okay with genocide against the Israeli Jews.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Of course Israel has a right to defend its people. Of course, it failed to do that on October 7. Still, i can't argue that most people consider this kind of revenge to be also a component of self defense. Certainly that was true, for example, with the US's war in Afghanistan.

However, speaking of genocide, Hamas (hell, all of Palestine) is not in a position to seriously threaten the Israeli people as a whole nor the Israeli Jews specifically.

Nor does this mean the US in particular is required to unconditionally provide an unlimited number of weapons to Israel.

[–] xzite@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Still, i can’t argue that most people consider this kind of revenge to be also a component of self defense.

Why did the bell ring immediately after Hamas started losing? You don't get to perform an offensive, have less success than expected and then simply call off the war.

However, speaking of genocide, Hamas (hell, all of Palestine) is not in a position to seriously threaten the Israeli people as a whole nor the Israeli Jews specifically.

The Arab states have been trying to do this literally since the creation of Israel. The only reason it hasn't occurred yet is because they lost all the wars they started.

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