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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Notice that the only objection @pingveno@lemmy.ml makes to chattel slavery in this whole thread is the brutality. Evidently, he'd be perfectly fine with the system as long as the slave owners weren't allowed to egregiously abuse their slaves. Thus he even argues that the modern prison slavery in US is not comparable to chattel slavery.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Ah yes, the benevolent slaver myth.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I also love this notion that the conditions got better because of capitalism. This shows such profound ignorance of history. Pretty much all the concessions workers got were won through militant organization of workers and the threat of USSR.

[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nobody remembers that rights were payed in blood. Literally nobody. Everyone thinks that at some point in history we suddenly obtained them or something.

And the fact that those rights were fought by the left is even more forgoten…

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, people really need to learn how all these rights we enjoy today were won.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Things like the 8 hour work day?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, things like 8 hour work day were won through violent labour action. Love how you keep claiming to be historically literate, but clearly not the case is it https://www.ibew48.com/blog/may-day-and-fight-8-hour-work-day

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Exactly. Won by the labor movement after the American Civil War. Not achieved by capitalists and not involved in abolishing chattel slavery.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Thank you for supporting the point I'm making. Capitalism of itself does not improve worker conditions compared to chattel slavery. The improvement in conditions comes from violent action against both systems of oppression.

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