While there are typical comments like crypto=scam “You have to be quite stupid to support crypto in 2023”, there are also replies like these (with which more people seem to agree, unexpectedly):

It’s designed to protect anyone using it - even attackers. That’s the price to pay for having privacy. The alternative is an Orwellian dystopia.

If you’re going to use Luna, FTX, and NFTs as arguments about something like Monero, […] you probably don’t really understand any of them.

It’s a bit odd that such a discussion is more active on a different Lemmy instance than here, but it’s interesting to hear honest opinions of various people about the incident, about Monero. Maybe your views are different from them, from mine. For example, one person states there that while they know exactly what Monaro is, they’re still skeptical.

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[–] rattie_ok@monero.town -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

“You have to be quite stupid to support crypto in 2023”

They ain't wrong. Usage of crypto has very much stagnated or declined last few years, and it's now just an Internet phenomenon drifting towards oblivion. Like gopher protocol or web rings.

Lucky ones made some life changing money. The rest have only managed to trap their capital into a dwindling returns game.

[–] tusker@monero.town 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Totally wrong. Crypto is only growing and will replace 90% of the current financial system in 10 years. Idiots that jump into obvious scams (ponzi money laundering operations acting as exchanges, dog coins, monkey pics) will lose everything, as they have always done.

Once you properly use real crypto, like Monero, you realize how terrible the legacy financial system is and you want to avoid using it whenever possible.

[–] rattie_ok@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It took Internet and social media 10 years to fully proliferate, and crypto is already 14 years old. Perhaps its zenith had already passed, and people getting to it now are laggards. If I'm being overly optimistic, then maybe 50 years to replace current financial system could be a viable goal.

I've used crypto for purchases of various things, and it definitely is much better than current fiat system and the banks. However, adoption is still in infancy, while at the same time regulation ban hammer is coming down hard, cutting down anyone who dares to accept crypto as payment in the "above ground" world, where 90% of the economy happens.

If you can't use crypto in your day to day life, then crypto is just speculation. Big change isn't coming from us, we are few and our voices are unheard. Change is coming when some celebrity or famous person shows the world how easy it is to use Monero in their day to day life, and how beneficial it would be to the civilization. Sadly all of those "heavy hitters" are rich, and they won't risk their billions of net worth held in old money system. 'Monero' is the one single word that no one above $100M net worth is supposed to mention in public.

One more thing: about losing everything. I've bought XMR back in early 2018, and my average buy-in price is $250, or 0.025 BTC. I've already lost at least half of my initial fiat investment, so Monero has been an abysmal performer, not even inflation hedge. That's not how money works. Had I kept my money in co-opted and crippled BTC, I'd be able to get 4x as much XMR as I have now.

[–] tusker@monero.town 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sounds like someone is bitter because they made the wrong bet. I knew crypto was not an "investment" from the start when I was CPU mining BTC.

Got into Monero around $30-$50 when I realized BTC is not money, but only converted some existing BTC into XMR. It was pretty obvious the financial mafia would not allow XMR to pump in their marets.

As for fiat buys you should not be buying unless everyone thinks crypto is collapsing. That is the time to scoop up some more.

You may be right about your projections, Monero will likely take over 90% of black market in 10 years and it will take about 50 years to take 90% of everything else. One thing is for sure, crypto in one form or another will dominate the world we will just need 1 or 2 generation cycles.

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