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This release of Polonium adds support for more precise mouse tile movement and fixes some graphical glitches.

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[โ€“] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Sadly no "official support" for X11...

But let's see how it goes. I love bismuth very much but I start to feel the bugginess ๐Ÿ˜ญ

[โ€“] zeroxoneafour@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The "no official support" thing is really only there because I don't drive X11 and don't test for bugs there myself. Anecdotally, it works about the same feature/bug-wise.

[โ€“] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay, i'll give it a spin.

But the issue is that we X11 users are discouraged of posting bugs if we can't reproduce them in wayland.

I have a NVidia card, there is no way i will install a wayland instance of KDE just to see if the bug i have on X11 is also there.

[โ€“] alexl@pkm.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@RandomLegend @zeroxoneafour

You just need to logout and login with the Wayland session, maybe with another user...

[โ€“] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i mean the issue is with my NVidia card. God knows what other issues i will face on wayland with that.

I know that it's easy to just switch to wayland, but going into a minefield of potential bugs to find out if that one bug from X11 also appears there...hmm

[โ€“] alexl@pkm.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@RandomLegend

Plasma Wayland session supports Nvidia cards and I don't see why you just don't try to reproduce the bug in the Wayland session and leave it when you want...

[โ€“] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because all i hear are horrorstories about Wayland not being ready with NVidia despite projects saying it is. Didn't test it, that's why i said i give it a spin.

Just wanted to tell you that it feels a bit weird that X11 users (who are still the absolute majority of users) have to switch to a completely other system basically (which also introduces much more dependencies installed on our PCs) "just" to test bug reproducability...

I 100% understand that you cannot split yourself in half and develop it for BOTH x11 and wayland. And since you use wayland you obviously developed it for that. And the fact you tested it on x11 and it works (as far as you can see) is a big step and i thank you for that! But i am just a little bit sad that there is no "made-for-x11" replacement for bismuth. I will not switch to wayland any time soon and bismuth is discontinued. So i am just a little bit frustrated and that got channeled towards you - sorry for that.

[โ€“] alexl@pkm.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@RandomLegend

Bismuth works fine with Plasma 5.27 X11

no it doesn't anymore... bugginess comes through.

Open windows on second monitor gets resized whenever i open something on my main monitor. Sometimes windows stack upon each other and get mixed up whenever i try to sort them again.

All these were not existent before 5.27. It still works 95% don't get me wrong. But some minor issues come through that get annoying over the span of a full day if you encounter them everytime you open something

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