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Share your unfiltered, unpopular gaming opinions and let's dive into some real discussions. If you come across a view you disagree with, feel free to (respectfully) defend your perspective. I don't want to see anyone say stuff like "we're all entitled to our own opinions." Let's pretend like gaming is a science and we are all award winning scientists.

My Unpopular Opinion:

I believe the criticism against battle royales is often unwarranted. Most complaints revolve around constant content updates, microtransactions, and toxic player communities

Many criticize the frequent content updates, often cosmetic, as overwhelming. However, it's optional, and no other industry receives flak for releasing more. I've never seen anyone complain about too many Lays or coke flavors.

Pay-to-win concerns are mostly outdated; microtransactions are often for cosmetics. If you don't have the self control to not buy a purple glittery gun, then I'm glad you don't play the games anymore, but I don't think it makes the game bad.

The annoying player bases is the one I understand the most. I don't really have a point against this except that it's better to play with friends.

Overall I think battle royale games are pretty fun and rewarding. Some of my favorite gaming memories were playing stuff like apex legends late at night with friends or even playing minecraft hunger games with my cousins like 10 years ago. A long time ago I heard in a news segment that toy companies found out that people are willing to invest a lot of time and energy into winning ,if they know there will be a big reward at the end, and battle royales tap into that side of my brain.

This is just my opinion

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Battle royale gameplay sucks though. I like competitive games but spending 15 minutes in empty buildings looting, then 4 minutes running from shots that I can’t tell where they’re from, then 30 seconds in a firefight only to die and have to wait for the rest of my teammates to die before I can play again… that’s objectively boring af.

When I get time to spend playing video games, I want to actually play, not spend the whole time just picking up items and guns I never get to use.

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was really being snobbish at battle royal type game. I'm an older gamer. Been playing TDM for years. I didn't get the concept.

But I got into Apex when it released. I think it's the best game I've ever played. The gameplay and movement is phenomenal, I can't play any other FPS.

And being in the last 3-5 team alive on the last few ring is so much adrenalin! I love it.

[–] bearwithastick@feddit.ch 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you like the movement, try Titanfall 2 if you haven't already. The Finals also has some fantastic fast paced gameplay and movement. Open Beta is currently running and I haven't had so much fun in an FPS for a very long time now.

[–] telllos@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I've played the campaign of titanfall, it was really amazing. I tried the multiplayer, but people skills were already so much advanced.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Only PUBG (pre bots) has ever got my heart rate above 180; my first win. No other game has done that.

Shame it sucks ass, now.

[–] crawley@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also basically no replayability because there's zero progression. Since every round starts exactly the same as every other, there's nothing to unlock other than skins, and you have to pay for the battle pass to even unlock those. Meanwhile games like Battlefield or Battlebit or COD have tons of things to unlock that you can use when you want.

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn’t most competitive multiplayer games like that? That’s like thinking chess has zero replay value because there are no unlockables.

[–] zombieshotgun@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

No one’s told you about the Super Knight? It’s $8.99/turn but it can move in any upper-case letter path. It also discounts the Victorian Hat Pack for the queen.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 1 points 1 year ago

It depends on their format. A lot of competitive games have abilities and different loadout options that allow you to try different playstyles on purpose and practice getting better with them, while the battle royale's format forces you to deal with what you find, preventing practice with specific setups.

For example MOBAs allow you to pick heroes who play very very differently and allow you to become proficient in a number of different playstyles purposefully on your own time, so you feel the progression more directly and if you dead end with one character you can try more.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find that having no in-game progression of any kind is part of the appeal of these kinds of games. The progression comes from improving your own skills at the game.

[–] limeaide@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Highly agree. Whenever I got good enough and I realized I was close to maybe winning my first game, it made me really proud.

I feel like battle royales are the more social versions of souls likes

[–] WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You could make the same case for rogue-likes

[–] crawley@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really like rogue-likes either, for pretty much the same reason. Rogue-lites are a thousand times better just for that one small change.

I simply mean that some people enjoy the task of knowing the map and being able to just be better. Learning the game. It’s not my cup of tea except for maybe Risk of Rain, but there’s a base for it

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 0 points 1 year ago

If you mean true roguelikes then I agree, if you include rogue lites like Dead Cells or Hades then there is true progression and unlocking of new mechanics and weapons that allow you to learn and practice new techniques using them

[–] limeaide@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that's a subjective opinion, but I will agree that it is not for everyone. I love battle royale games because of how intense they are.

It's one of the only game modes that make me feel like I have something to lose if I do not perform my best. There are actually consequences to my actions, and that's why it's so intense.

Sure, technically I can start another game, but I will not get back my previous investments.

Also, the last couple fights before I win a game are more intense than any other game I've ever played

[–] some_guy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that’s a subjective opinion.

The gameplay loop being 10-15 minutes of running around empty buildings and 30-45s of firefights is objectively boring, though.

I’m glad you like it 👍

[–] limeaide@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Not sure what games you're playing that you don't get straight into the action. Whenever I play, I get into a gunfight within the first couple minutes all the time.

Also, since the rise of battle royale games the maps have gotten better and there is more action more often. Not only that, but the games are generally more balanced nowadays. That's one of the benefits of the constant funding: there will continue to be constant updates and the game will continue to be tweaked and improved as long as people play it.

Just like every other game genre, they have improved. The first platformers didn't come out of the gate being like Mario Wonder or Celeste. There has and will continue to be more progress in the genre.