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[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 6 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Still is a betrayal of trust if the player prices the sword effects are over way then it changes. Video games rarely do this because breaking that trust feels terrible.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (6 children)

It also defeats the point of the exercise. The paladin is nolonger responsible for the murder of those innocents because he was lied to about the true nature of the sword and would have no way to find out the truth without killing an innocent person.

So it's not the paladin doing the killings, it's the DM.

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I think you missed the point of the exercise.

The Paladin is using the sword in place of a moral compass. They stab people upon first meeting and trust that anyone who dies deserved it. If the sword weren't good aligned, this would be heinous behaviour.

So make the sword evil. How long does it take for the Paladin to stop doing evil deeds in the blind belief that they're doing good? Does the Paladin take responsibility for stabbing random townsfolk, or do they try to blame something else for their actions? Does the Paladin just straight up fall to evil, supporting wicked people in the blind belief that they must be the real good guys?

[–] kyonshi@dice.camp 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

@Susaga @pinkdrunkenelephants you are not getting the real twist. Replace the sword with a fake, completely non-magical one.it doesn't have to be evil. The paladin only has to believe it only hurts evil people.

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 2 points 11 months ago

I did consider that. I like it not affecting evil creatures cause it might make the Paladin question things if it fails to harm one of the BBEG's minions. Whether they question which side their on or the sword itself is up to them.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago

It's still wrong as it would still be the DM's fault for manipulating someone else to harm other people.

Or did going full Joker become moral while I was away?

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